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Title: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: stevedale on September 28, 2007, 06:07:37 pm
hi all
     so how do you work? .... i do the upstairs wfp and the downstairs with me aplicater and blade, and i still get me ladder off for windows on flat roofs etc......    feedback would be good
                       steve
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: supernova77 on September 28, 2007, 06:11:29 pm
I do exactly the same. Unless the house has leaded or georgian windows... Then I do the whole lot WFP.

The reason I trad normal bottom windows is to save water... Plus I like having a break from the pole from time to time.

Andy
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: colley614 on September 28, 2007, 06:15:17 pm
Both get the best of both worlds!
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: jampot on September 28, 2007, 06:20:57 pm
im going to be wfp up and down. sooooooooon  ;)
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: chrismroberts on September 28, 2007, 06:30:53 pm
I WFP everything, and just squeegee windows that I can't reach with the pole. I have one or two bungalows that I still trad, not worth taking the reel off the van! :P
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on September 28, 2007, 06:55:38 pm
most wfp up and down but stuff like bunglows i tend to do trad methods. but using a 3ft pole on ground floors as bloody quick ;D
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: stevedale on September 28, 2007, 06:58:27 pm
cheers all
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Russell Macdonald on September 28, 2007, 07:11:48 pm
100% wfp.

I had a couple of jobs & past them onto another trad wc as they were more suitable for trad. Custy happy & hes got more work.

Macc
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: LWC on September 28, 2007, 07:16:00 pm
also 100 % wfp no complaints all happy

trad inside. yet to do any outsides trad in a year  ;)
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Sir Squeaky on September 28, 2007, 07:18:27 pm
WFP all upstairs and all georgian and leaded.

I tend to squeegee off a lot of downstairs if they're in, just so it looks better.
If it's been washed with wfp it's 5 seconds per window to squeegee anyway, as you don't need to detail with clean water.

If no-ones in 100% wfp, the quicker the better!
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Russell Macdonald on September 28, 2007, 07:35:31 pm
WFP all upstairs and all georgian and leaded.

I tend to squeegee off a lot of downstairs if they're in, just so it looks better.
If it's been washed with wfp it's 5 seconds per window to squeegee anyway, as you don't need to detail with clean water.

If no-ones in 100% wfp, the quicker the better!

Rog, you are creating a rod for your own back.  ::)

Why squeegee off downstairs, be confident & they will be.  ;)
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Sir Squeaky on September 28, 2007, 07:41:41 pm
Just looks better and more professional than taking 5 minutes and walking off leaving them not being able to see out the window.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: darren73 on September 28, 2007, 07:56:10 pm
wfp for everything as i find it easier than trad plus the frames get done
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Russell Macdonald on September 28, 2007, 08:00:14 pm
Just looks better and more professional than taking 5 minutes and walking off leaving them not being able to see out the window.

Ok mate but that's 5 mins of work for nothing, work your not getting paid for.

Macc
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Sir Squeaky on September 28, 2007, 08:03:46 pm
Doesn't take 5 minutes.

It takes about 5 seconds per window.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: stevedale on September 28, 2007, 08:11:37 pm
so what van ? and how much water do you boys carry? ...... i got an escort 75 , it does my head in up hill
                                 steve
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Paul Coleman on September 28, 2007, 11:45:45 pm
so what van ? and how much water do you boys carry? ...... i got an escort 75 , it does my head in up hill
                                 steve

I used to have an Escort 55 to carry my trad gear.  It got a bit embarrassing when the cyclists overtook me going uphill.

I've now got a Renault trafic (the 2.9 tonne version) and have an 800 litre tank in it.  I don't fill it beyond 700 though as there's a risk of overloading.  If I travelled light with other equipment I could probably fill it though.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Sir Squeaky on September 29, 2007, 10:26:19 am
so what van ? and how much water do you boys carry? ...... i got an escort 75 , it does my head in up hill
                                 steve

I used to have an Escort 55 to carry my trad gear.  It got a bit embarrassing when the cyclists overtook me going uphill.

I've now got a Renault trafic (the 2.9 tonne version) and have an 800 litre tank in it.  I don't fill it beyond 700 though as there's a risk of overloading.  If I travelled light with other equipment I could probably fill it though.
You must have a lot of other kit Shiner. :o

The SL29 version (as I've got too), has a payload of 1250kg.
The normal SL27 is 1050kg.

The van weighs 1650kg + 1250 payload = 2900.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: macmac on September 29, 2007, 11:27:15 am
wfp tops & bottoms, if it's good enough for tops, it's good enough for bottoms.
I still do lots of trad work though, bungalows & jobs where wfp is not suitable or trad is quicker/less hassle.

tony
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: mike richardson on September 30, 2007, 10:22:15 pm
get an ex rac transit330

 takes nearly 1,500 ltrs of water just bought 1 last week rear wheel drive 2.5ltr bright orange my customers never get me mixed up with anybody else lol.

gona have 3 systems workin out of it 2 at rear 1 at side door on 100 mtr reels all mounted to the tank & a trolley for the awkward jobs.

 trad some aswell 3 lads will use the ststem out of 1 van prob use about 1200ltrs a ady between us.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: NWH on September 30, 2007, 10:34:25 pm
DON`t buy an old van,you`ll regret it.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: mike richardson on September 30, 2007, 10:51:16 pm
ive got a new traffic aswell its never out of the garage its for ever goin wrong,pleased its under warrenty but the time out of action costs me a fortune in down time,
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: NWH on September 30, 2007, 10:54:11 pm
I really fancy one of those vans but i`ve heard lots of people moaning about them to,what`s been wrong with yours.
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: mike richardson on September 30, 2007, 11:02:06 pm
37,000 ,mile
 had a new gear box
 mass airflow meter twice
 new steering rack
 door handles coming off
 reverse lights packing in
new battery after 1 year
tow bar bracket fell off
brake disks rotted away (not worn down)
said they wern't part of warrenty
some jets blocked aswell but not sure wot.

apart from that its been fine lol.

20,000 well spent (not)


 
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 01, 2007, 08:14:39 am
Had no problems with mine.
Ian's had his for two years with no problems.
Got a mate with a Vivaro for three years, no problems.

Mike's just been unlucky.
It's a great van NWH, don't worry.
What would you rather, a proper comfy big van, or a piddly little Citreon or Fiat?
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: mike richardson on October 01, 2007, 11:14:25 pm
big comfy van lol.

dnt no about you but i spend most of my time out of my van makin dosh lol
 so comfy dnt matter if it was id not want to get out especially with winter cumin up
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: david68 on October 01, 2007, 11:44:10 pm
Wfp top and bottom and even on flat roofs.
I have told my customers this is a better result with purified windows.
I also had along time convincing myself that this is true.

Now they all seem to have accepted it......" I think"

Dave
Title: Re: wfp... sqeegeee... ladder...or both ?
Post by: Kwackers on October 02, 2007, 12:07:43 am
so what van ? and how much water do you boys carry? ...... i got an escort 75 , it does my head in up hill
                                 steve

I used to have an Escort 55 to carry my trad gear.  It got a bit embarrassing when the cyclists overtook me going uphill.

I've now got a Renault trafic (the 2.9 tonne version) and have an 800 litre tank in it.  I don't fill it beyond 700 though as there's a risk of overloading.  If I travelled light with other equipment I could probably fill it though.

I've had a Tonne in a traffic before without even realising (picked the van up did a drop off as a favour)

Drove ok i must say ;D

I used to have an Escort aswell, 1.8 Diesel, definately better with the fred flinstone technique uphill