Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Captain Scarlet on September 26, 2007, 07:05:14 pm
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(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SuperLite2_complete_Kit.jpg)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Superlite_all_sections.jpg)
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Fishing pole
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(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SuperLite2_complete_Kit.jpg)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Superlite_all_sections.jpg)
do you have one of these luke, what are they like what height is it and the price please make it 5 ;)
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NO, this is designed for window cleaning! look at the logos on the sections.The principle idea comes from a fishing pole, this is the first one to be made just for window cleaning. I think it is the lightest produced wfp in the world!!! Gardiners have had this specifically designed for window cleaning, Luke
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No i dont have one yet but I have ordered the 45ft one with a 49ft reach, they have a big reach because you can hold them high because their light. The website states the price at £530 excl vat and delivery. Luke
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No i dont have one yet but I have ordered the 45ft one with a 49ft reach, they have a big reach because you can hold them high because their light. The website states the price at £530 excl vat and delivery. Luke
can you get the extra sections at a later date when they ware out? and if so any idea on price? I am guessing you can use this pole for evry work you have as you can just add a section when needed am I right in thinking this.
Cheers Luke
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yes you can buy sections or add sections later, I think Alex said that sections will be around £50 each, but because this pole is much tougher than a fishing pole it will wear less and also there are no clamps to go wrong! Personally I am going to use this pole for stuff over 25ft because I already have a Brodex 25ft pro long, but in reality bacuase this thing is so light I will probably end up using it all the time for 25ft-50ft stuff. i think at around 25ft it will weigh less than a kg!
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NO, this is designed for window cleaning! look at the logos on the sections.The principle idea comes from a fishing pole, this is the first one to be made just for window cleaning. I think it is the lightest produced wfp in the world!!! Gardiners have had this specifically designed for window cleaning, Luke
gullible ::)
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look at the videos on the video sections, we'll see who's gullible when I am doing more work and have more stamina at the end of the day! does my enthusiasm make me sound gullible :)
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html
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look at these videos, we'll see who's gullible when I am doing more work and have more stamina at the end of the day!
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html
iv`e see them iv`e got a carbon fishing pole been using it over 12 months and didn`t pay silly money ;)
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leave me alone please
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(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/th_viddds002.jpg)
can anybody see this video?
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Hi Guys,
The Super-Lite2, as pictured above by Luke, is based on Fishing pole jointing technology. However each section has been specifically designed for window cleaning stresses and use.
The pole would be quite unsuitable for fishing as the 'weighting', 'stiffness' and 'bounce' would not match a fisherman's needs.
The extension sections can be bought at a later date for about £50, meaning that you can always turn your '35ft' pole into a '56ft' pole without having to buy a complete new pole.
Individual sections can be bought if they wear out, however this would take a fair amount of use, if maintained properly, before this would happen. To give you an idea I am still using my original Super-Lite 20 months on, with only minimal wear to each joint.
Some people will still be skeptical of these type of poles, generally it is because they have never used one. However this type of pole will not suit everyone and even I do not recommend them for all types of work, ie Domestic work up to 30ft can often be more straightforward with a telescopic pole.
If you are of a practical nature then converting a fishing pole will always be an option, however if you use a fishing pole of the same quality as the Super-Lite2 then it will probably cost you more money. The sections on a Super-Lite2 will generally be in a class above ordinary fishing poles for durability and ease of use.
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Good on ya Alex but wasn`t it able to have the first 3 or 4 sections telescopic ?
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Alex, when will they be posted? Luke
becuase I have a big job and I need to phone them tomorrow to sort out dates
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luke, your making the right decision buying the superlite 2 for high work, they are absolutely brilliant, you dont even know you have it in your hands its so light. i dont own one yet. but i had a shot of it for a few weeks, you can work all day long, and it wont tire you out, you may be young, but i would say you where smarter ;D
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thanks mate!! so how is the hoseless pole going, I really want one because I'm sick of getting tangled up! Luke
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thanks mate!! so how is the hoseless pole going, I really want one because I'm sick of getting tangled up! Luke
very slowly luke, as i have been busy myself, i now have it working succesfully at 18ft, been using it regular, and is realy good, now moving up to 21ft just waiting on the new parts arriving,
i have to put it through its paces first,
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sounds great, I am really sick of hose at the moment, I dont understand how it always manages to get knotted all the time!
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Luke is that the pole hose your having trouble with? If so it looks like silicon hose might be the future.
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Luke is that the pole hose your having trouble with? If so it looks like silicon hose might be the future.
i use the silicon tubing, it still gets knoted and tangled up lol
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Oh b****r! looks like we're stuck with it then. :(
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Keep the hose on a reel and unspin it a few turns now and again by holding the hose at arms length and unspinning the brush or just disconnect and reel it back in holding between a cloth or thro your hand.
Ideally when you build up experience you learn which way it twists and alternate the way you errect the pole to equalise the effect.
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I think it is the lightest produced wfp in the world!!!
Yes and no.
The original Superlite was slightly lighter, but this one is 5 times stronger. :)
..and yes I have got both. ;)
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look at these videos, we'll see who's gullible when I am doing more work and have more stamina at the end of the day!
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html
iv`e see them iv`e got a carbon fishing pole been using it over 12 months and didn`t pay silly money ;)
18 UK Window Cleaning Forum / Window Cleaning Issues / Re: Repairing Poles? on: June 09, 2007, 12:25:59 PM
why are fishing poles being used if they snap so easy surley it makes more sense to buy a "proper" pole
Tom
That's funny, you posted this in june ::)
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I think it is the lightest produced wfp in the world!!!
Yes and no.
The original Superlite was slightly lighter, but this one is 5 times stronger. :)
..and yes I have got both. ;)
Why is the original better? I shall have both soon hopefully, can you add sections from the first pole to increase the length of the second?
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I think it is the lightest produced wfp in the world!!!
Yes and no.
The original Superlite was slightly lighter, but this one is 5 times stronger. :)
..and yes I have got both. ;)
Why is the original better? I shall have both soon hopefully, can you add sections from the first pole to increase the length of the second?
The new version is much better.
I never said the old one was better. ???
There's no comparison.
I'd imagine you could add sections, I haven't tried.
But then, they're both the same length, so they're the same sections.
Means I've got spares though!
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look at these videos, we'll see who's gullible when I am doing more work and have more stamina at the end of the day!
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html
iv`e see them iv`e got a carbon fishing pole been using it over 12 months and didn`t pay silly money ;)
Funny you never even had a pole in June?
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Squeak I read your post wrong - you said slightly lighter. ::)
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It is a fishing pole, plain and simple. If you can't see that then nobody can help you.
Also, that "EZ Snap Tail" that gardiner's site boasts is "Design Protected" whatever that means, in nothing more than a practice golf ball like here:
http://www.118golf.co.uk/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=149
Except gardiner are charging £1.05 for them and you can get them in a golf shop for much cheaper.
"Design protected", yeah, but not by gardiners.
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It is a fishing pole, plain and simple. If you can't see that then nobody can help you.
Also, that "EZ Snap Tail" that gardiner's site boasts is "Design Protected" whatever that means, in nothing more than a practice golf ball like here:
http://www.118golf.co.uk/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=149
Except gardiner are charging £1.05 for them and you can get them in a golf shop for much cheaper.
"Design protected", yeah, but not by gardiners.
Tescos do them actually, but who cares?
Fair play to them.
Didn't you used to be the Sex Pistols vocalist?
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Hi John,
I thought that I would bother to take the time to reply to your post.
The Protecta-Balls are design protected (which simply means that - the design is protected under IPO and UK Law) as they are not just 'golf balls'. You can buy something similar in a golf shop (or Tescos!) which you would then have to modify. Most of our customers want something straight off the shelf not a DIY parts list for them to adapt. The 'EZ-Snap Tail' is something completely different and they are not design protected by us but they are fully protected by the manufacturer.
The Super-Lite is not a fishing pole plain and simple. We do have design protection from the UK IPO for this product. Why were we able to take out full IPO protection on this product? Because it is a unique design.
Any other manufacturer that tries to sell a product similar to either of the above products will have legal action taken against them.
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I do like progress. Well done Alex for the investement and coming up with Mk2 version. Good luck.
On another topic you mentioned using them over 30ft, I think you are underselling the concept. If the poles are stronger then why not go for the complete everyday 3ft to 60ft market.
Most guys have no idea of how light and enjoyable an experience fishing poles are.
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take it from me , these are not fishing poles, that was the image i had at first,
they are very rigid, ultra lite, and very strong, and it only takes secs to put them together, i dont own one, as i had a shot for a few weeks, and i fell in love with it, as soon as i can get some extra cash, i am having one, ;D
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your comments. Your original idea of using fishing poles for WFP work was the springboard for this project and has been of great personal benefit in my own commercial rounds. We feel that this project has now come to full fruition after nearly 2 years of working with them and trying out various improvements.
I personally do use the Super-Lite right down to ground floor work as it is more than strong enough to cope with this. One of my workers only ever uses a Super-Lite due to weak shoulders. I still feel though that telescopic poles up to about 30ft have their place and will suit many users better, which is why we are pushing ahead with the telescopic Super-Lite (SL-X) project.
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I think that we all should be congratulating Alex on what he has acheaved he first went down the "off the shelf" road and realised that there was more to these poles and stuck to his guns and come up with something special knowone else can come close to the poles he has designed,
well done Alex i say ;)
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alex, can i be your first Guinea pig, to try out the telescopic Super-Lite (SL-X) project. ;D
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Don't worry Joe, we'll look after you on this one!
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Alex, I would also like to test if that would be ok, Luke
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Hi Luke
We actually don't need any more testing done on these poles, I was just referring to the fact that we would do a special deal for Jouk45 as he has been giving us quite a bit of input recently on various projects, but thanks for the offer.
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ok, but what about the new brush, or is that covered? Luke
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Don`t forget about me Alex! i didn`t even get an old brush to try out. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Just to add my comment. I used a fishing pole for domestics for 7 months this year. It was really light and rigid. It broke, several times. But it wasn't super strong. However, I think I'm much quicker on domestics with my 24ft hybrid. But higher than 3 storey I would without a doubt get a superlight 2.
For two storeys its too much of a faff.
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What make was it ?
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I've been watching this post with interest
I currently use an 18ft 3 section ally unger pole that I diy'd into wfp and a dreaded 39 ft gf universal with vikan! its a beast and leaves me with arms like popeye! ;D Cost of the superlight is the factor for me as my business is small but growing all the time. I probably get away without using "the beast" for 60% of my work but it does take its toll on my body and motivation. I'm looking forward to others comments on the superlight in the coming weeks, as to ease of use and durability. I know Alex says it may not be suited to all day domestic but for that money I'd need it to be the one pole that does all up to 40 ft.
If anyone in Sussex is taking order of one in the next few weeks , let me know, I'd like to come over and see for myself what ya all raving about ;)
Simon
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i have the superlite 1 version and think its great but you do have to treat it with care ,i would definately be buying the super lite 2 but now i hear there is a telescopic version on trial i will wait for this . How long do you think it will be before your selling these alex.
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the sl-x is not a replacement for the superlight, I thibk it will only go up to 25 or 35ft, Luke
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Cybersy, If you get your hands on a Supelight you won't believe just how light and easy they are. You'l never ever want to touch a glassfibre extending monster pole ever again - even one of twenty four feet. No more shaking arms, no more whopping great bend in the pole whilst reaching over conservatories. You can even clean one handed when near vertical! I have a Superlight 1 but it had two major drawbacks ie. it's expensive and frighteningly fragile but my breakages have never happened whilst cleaning. Hopefully the Superlight 2 has sorted this out I'll be the first to complain if it dosen't live up to the hype. :)
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i have the superlite 1 version and think its great but you do have to treat it with care ,i would definately be buying the super lite 2 but now i hear there is a telescopic version on trial i will wait for this . How long do you think it will be before your selling these alex.
Hi Trevor
Luke is right. At the moment the telescopic Super-Lite (SL-X) is only going to go up to a maximum of 30 ft. We feel that this will compliment the modular Super-Lite perfectly. Unfortunately, going higher than 30 ft with a telescopic pole is never going to be as stiff or as light as a Super-Lite which is why we have stuck with the Super-Lite project.
There is a possibility in the future, once the SL-X is established, that we may build a limited run of high level telescopic versions (45-60ft). This will not be because we think they are the better option, but because there will always be those that want a telescopic pole even at that height and despite their inherent disadvantages.
By the way Trevor, you do qualify as a previous customer for the Super-Lite1 upgrade price. Check it out on our website. It is quite a large saving.
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I've just found the wifes credit card. hurrah
A superlite for me too then i recon.
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If everyone is upgrading to the super lite 2 does that mean you are all selling your original poles ;D
as i am now looking for a longer pole than my 34ft facelift and dont have the spare money to spend buying another brand new pole
tight!! i know ;)
Dean
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ok, but what about the new brush, or is that covered? Luke
Hi Luke
It's sorted. But we will be offering all purchasers of the Super-Lite2 a heavily discounted upgrade to the new brush when it comes out.