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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Davo on September 23, 2007, 12:20:41 pm
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What are the pros and cons of using a window canvassing company??
Will they price at a pre arranged hourly rate?
If you dont use one then why not??
Thanks Mark
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ok 42 views an not one reply........thought this was a forum about window cleaning issues. canvassing is an important issue is it not>.
If the same question was asked by squeeky ( no offence to you squeeky btw) then im sure there would have been a better response to the question.
mark
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I use a canvassing company and have had no problems. I get quality work, some jobs i think how have you got away with this price?? I know i dont have to worry about the image they portray of my business, they explain to all potential customers how my cleaning system works, and all signed up customers are left with one of my explination letters. The downside is i have to pay twice the amount for the work!! ;D
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Hi Mark,
The reason you probably wont receive so many replys is due to the fact that this issue has been discussed very often. Try looking under the archives. Terry
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Quote from: gordons on July 25, 2007, 09:15:43 PM
I feel that this forum is getting worse lots of rubbish on it boring topics every topic has been on 100 times before. Full of wfp rubbish and thats why i could not care less if i never came on here again.
gordons, you will find that a lot of new folk come on and ask the same old questions, that we have heard so many times,
but thats what the forums are about, we asked the same questions to,
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What are the pros and cons of using a window canvassing company??
Will they price at a pre arranged hourly rate?
If you dont use one then why not??
Thanks Mark
I've never used one.
Pros are that you can work while they get you more work as you may not have the time or inclination to canvass for yourself.
Cons are that it will cost you money, you don't get to target the right sort of properties for yourself, you are not in total control of the pricing (even a good canvasser will get it wrong sometimes and may be tempted to go a bit low in order to get the work), if there are cancellations, you only have their word that they will refund or replace.
My own view is that it's better to do it yourself unless you really don't have the time.
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i totally agree with you shiner . its always best to see the work and price it yourself and you know exactly whats going on. :)
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I've never used one.
Pros are that you can work while they get you more work as you may not have the time or inclination to canvass for yourself.
Cons are that it will cost you money, you don't get to target the right sort of properties for yourself, you are not in total control of the pricing (even a good canvasser will get it wrong sometimes and may be tempted to go a bit low in order to get the work), if there are cancellations, you only have their word that they will refund or replace.
My own view is that it's better to do it yourself unless you really don't have the time.
I give my canvasser the areas i want to be canvassed. So far i have not had an underpriced job, if this was the case then i would have it replaced, so not in the interest of the canvasser. If a job cancells, then in my signed contract they will replace up to 3 months. They will not replace if i do not turn up on the time or day i arrange, do a crap job ect ect. They keep the customers details and contact them to find out why they have cancelled.
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My thoughts entirely bud. Too many jumped up newbies around here lately. Anyways, the sun is coming out to play so i'm goin out to work :( Looking forward to an easy day too lol
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ok 42 views an not one reply........thought this was a forum about window cleaning issues. canvassing is an important issue is it not>.
If the same question was asked by squeeky ( no offence to you squeeky btw) then im sure there would have been a better response to the question.
Or maybe i should ask a question about your favorite colour. that should become a hot topic.
If this dissolusioned reply offends anyone you can suck my bell thingy.
mark
iF YOU READ WHAT YOU WROTE, i AM NOT SURPRISED. Somepeople will reply when they see it it depends the way you advertise it, make the subject standout and the post read well, if you dont you will limit the replies that you will get. and adding "suck my bell thingy" does not help. I have posted a subject and had alot of views and no replies, so all I did was edited the post to sound better and haypresto I got replies.
New people will tend ask the same questions that have been asked before "I do" and I will carry on asking if I cant find the answer as I hope new people will.
Many of us on here help, others just slate and others just write stupid comments, this makes a forum we all have different views and opinions alike.
Got that all out, what was the question again ::)
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I've never used one.
Pros are that you can work while they get you more work as you may not have the time or inclination to canvass for yourself.
Cons are that it will cost you money, you don't get to target the right sort of properties for yourself, you are not in total control of the pricing (even a good canvasser will get it wrong sometimes and may be tempted to go a bit low in order to get the work), if there are cancellations, you only have their word that they will refund or replace.
My own view is that it's better to do it yourself unless you really don't have the time.
I give my canvasser the areas i want to be canvassed. So far i have not had an underpriced job, if this was the case then i would have it replaced, so not in the interest of the canvasser. If a job cancells, then in my signed contract they will replace up to 3 months. They will not replace if i do not turn up on the time or day i arrange, do a crap job ect ect. They keep the customers details and contact them to find out why they have cancelled.
Which canvassing company do you employ?
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I was convinced i was gonna come home from work to this topic deleted. Kinda glad it isn't cos i wanna hear Davo's response. When i joined CIU 2 years ago i was overwhelmed by how much people that i didn't even know were prepared to bend over backwards to help struggling people out. And they still do to this day. As mentioned recently on one post, i owe what i am today and how much i'm earning today to quite a few people on this site. Why did they help me? Because they just did. They didn't ask anything in return. And as a newbie then, i tried to be courtious,polite and totally appreciative of any advice people were willing to offer me. My advice to you Davo is not to be so disrepectful. I still can't believe you posted what you did. But thats done now. And try and realise that people aren't here at your request. They have lives.....working, shopping, visiting family, doing day to day stuff that people do. And they cant always respond when you'd like them to. Try and show a bit more respect and you might just get the help that you obviously desire. As for the people that looked at your posting and didn't answer you.maybe that's because they just didn't have the answer.
Dino
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Hi Dino
It's been edited though. If you look the offensive parts are removed and my reply is gone altogether.
David
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I was convinced i was gonna come home from work to this topic deleted. Kinda glad it isn't cos i wanna hear Davo's response. When i joined CIU 2 years ago i was overwhelmed by how much people that i didn't even know were prepared to bend over backwards to help struggling people out. And they still do to this day. As mentioned recently on one post, i owe what i am today and how much i'm earning today to quite a few people on this site. Why did they help me? Because they just did. They didn't ask anything in return. And as a newbie then, i tried to be courtious,polite and totally appreciative of any advice people were willing to offer me. My advice to you Davo is not to be so disrepectful. I still can't believe you posted what you did. But thats done now. And try and realise that people aren't here at your request. They have lives.....working, shopping, visiting family, doing day to day stuff that people do. And they cant always respond when you'd like them to. Try and show a bit more respect and you might just get the help that you obviously desire. As for the people that looked at you posting and didn't answer you.maybe that's because they just didn't have the answer.
Dino
Precisely. What would he prefer? A load of replies with people just saying "Don't know"?
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Oh yeh, it's been tidied up ;) There is a God......I mean Mod..........lol. Would still like to hear from Davo though ::)
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Davo...........I demand an answer..............NOWWWWWWWWWW ;D
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ok 42 views an not one reply........thought this was a forum about window cleaning issues. canvassing is an important issue is it not>.
If the same question was asked by squeeky ( no offence to you squeeky btw) then im sure there would have been a better response to the question.
mark
bad attitude won't get you far on this forum
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you didn't see the half of it jay.........
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This forum can work really great if you are open to it. For example -
I joined in June and on my very first topic another member offered to bring me out and show me how it all works. I accepted his offer and we met up one saturday morning. He let me off with the WFP on a couple of his customers sites, advised me on pricing and how to judge a job, offered advise on what equipment I needed and where to souce them.
He had a small round he wanted to off load as he was taking on more and more high quality work. We came to a simple deal including a small amount of cash, some IT equipmenthe needed and the setup of that equipment. Everone was happy, I had a small round to bulid on (reasonable price, not rubbish) and he had some mobile functionality he had never though of.
He has an add in the yellow pages, any business out of his area he passes on to me. For my part any gutter cleaning I get will be passed on to him, I have not got the ladders to do the job. When I was behind on my round due to my dad dying, he came and gave me a morning to try and catch up for far less money that he had actually worked for me as he is still far faster than me.
I was speaking to him today, he helped me price up a builders clean on a large house in my area. We will be doing it together next week and splitting the £200.00 he advised me to ask for down the middle.
David
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you didn't see the half of it jay.........
i missed it dino, was it that bad?
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It was jay, but to repeat it would go against the grain of everything that upset me about it. If i was to repeat it, it would only get deleted. It's still under windowwashers quote, but that'll probably get deleted very soon too. ;)
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If you give me a couple of weeks I will let you know my opinion on a canvassing company. I'm going to get one in to give my work load a boost. Basically because I want to target a larger area that is practical to canvass but is practical to work around.
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Which canvassing company do you employ?
Roundbuilders. I have not had a problem with them in the year or so i have been using them.
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how fast did they get in touch with you?
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how fast did they get in touch with you?
Well ive been using them for about a year, not had any trouble with communication if thats what you mean??
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I e-mailed them friday and got a reply Saturday morning. I replied to that and the have not heard anything since. Was hoping for a contact from them today.
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Dont know, i normally get a quick response within a day by email, or hours by phone? I spoke to Gemma last week and she said that they are really busy and the weather hasnt been good.
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I was convinced i was gonna come home from work to this topic deleted. Kinda glad it isn't cos i wanna hear Davo's response. When i joined CIU 2 years ago i was overwhelmed by how much people that i didn't even know were prepared to bend over backwards to help struggling people out. And they still do to this day. As mentioned recently on one post, i owe what i am today and how much i'm earning today to quite a few people on this site. Why did they help me? Because they just did. They didn't ask anything in return. And as a newbie then, i tried to be courtious,polite and totally appreciative of any advice people were willing to offer me. My advice to you Davo is not to be so disrepectful. I still can't believe you posted what you did. But thats done now. And try and realise that people aren't here at your request. They have lives.....working, shopping, visiting family, doing day to day stuff that people do. And they cant always respond when you'd like them to. Try and show a bit more respect and you might just get the help that you obviously desire. As for the people that looked at you posting and didn't answer you.maybe that's because they just didn't have the answer.
Dino
Precisely. What would he prefer? A load of replies with people just saying "Don't know"?
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Dont know, i normally get a quick response within a day by email, or hours by phone? I spoke to Gemma last week and she said that they are really busy and the weather hasnt been good.
Do you have a telephone number for them that I could try tomorrow. Its just that I'm trying to get everything done at a million miles an hour and I'm waiting weeks for other people to get back to me with things I need.
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I have Gemma's mobile which is 07704 187580. Hope that helps.
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Thanks mate I'll ring tomorrow
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re above quore from dinos post.
Firstly Id like to thank those people that have tried to help me with this question.
Dino as you are probably aware of previous posts on all different kinds of forums, words in black and white can seem rather colder than the way the words sound in the posters head. Im sure that macmac would agree with me on that one. However I was frustrated by the lack of replies to my question, and also to a couple of posts i have made previously on this forum Where replies havent been overly forthcoming.
My post rather intimated that if u werent able to reply( cos u were to busy talking about ur black belt in whatever it is) rather than couldnt reply cos u didnt know I wasnt bothered, obviously I phrased it a different way.
But just for the record so you dont think im too much of a clever B*****d, this is an extremely well run informative and friendly forum.
The advice ive gained from this post has potentially saved me thousands and earned me a similar ammount.
Mark.
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Hi Mark.Thanks for putting your side across. I was hoping that you would at some stage today. Unfortunately,I don't think what you said could be open to misinterpretation and to compare it to what Macmac has said in the past is pretty lame. Secondly, i really don't know or understand your comment about me having a black belt. Maybe you could explain that to me.
Dino.
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Hi Mark.Thanks for putting your side across. I was hoping that you would at some stage today. Unfortunately,I don't think what you said could be open to misinterpretation and to compare it to what Macmac has said in the past is pretty lame. Secondly, i really don't know or understand your comment about me having a black belt. Maybe you could explain that to me.
Dino.
The reference to the blackbelt was in response to another thread about carrying weapons at work and not aimed at you personally.
mark
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It was jay, but to repeat it would go against the grain of everything that upset me about it. If i was to repeat it, it would only get deleted. It's still under windowwashers quote, but that'll probably get deleted very soon too. ;)
Yes it probably will. The mod missed it in my quote but I decided to self delete anyway. As I said before, I personally wasn't offended but it was obvious that a number of people would be offended so he should not have done it.
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Which canvassing company do you employ?
Roundbuilders. I have not had a problem with them in the year or so i have been using them.
Thanks for the info. I may yet put it to use but if I do, it would not be till after Winter.
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Damn, did I miss something that I should have deleted?? must be losing my touch or my eyesight ;)
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No Trevor, just your job ;D
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No Trevor, just your job ;D
will happily let someone else take the reigns, sure I can think of other things to do with the hours I spend on-line ;)
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You do a grand job Trev. I wouldn't wanna trawl thru it all. I spend too much time on here as it is. Big up to the mods. :-*