Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: russ_clark on September 22, 2007, 03:18:39 pm
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I have been setting up my new 40/40 RO today
I also purchased an RO Man booster pump which comes with a control pump.
Now I am pretty useless at this type of thing but I just cannot get the pump/s working.
Has anyone got one of these £200 things that could give me some advice.
The control pump screws into the top of the booster pump but they both have places to wire them up?
Do they both need to be wired up?
I have tried one then the other not a dickie bird from the pump ??? ???
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c'mon guys someone must be able to help
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c'mon guys someone must be able to help
Russ
If you can put a couple of pictures on, you may get a better response? ;)
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http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROOMNIPUMP001.jpg
Above piccy is of the pump and controller together.
Do they both get wired with 13a plug to mains???
Please help guys need to get it up and running today!!
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http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROOMNIPUMP001.jpg
Above piccy is of the pump and controller together.
Do they both get wired with 13a plug to mains???
Please help guys need to get it up and running today!!
I'm trying to help you here Russ, but I need to see all the cables including the ends. there looks like no other connection ports for cables.
So unless anyone who has one comes on in the meantime get another piccy put up, then I may be able to help.
Bit of a poor show, you spend a couple of hundred quide on a pump and controller and they don't include instructions.
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I will go and open them up and take another piccy
At the moment I have put a plug on each
i.e. one on the pump and one on the control.
Yes agreed very poor that there are no instructions ??? ???
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Russ it may be a good idea to change your heading from Tech guys please help, to help needed with pump and controller, if there not techy minded they wont read your post, but if you change the heading and they have a pump they can check theres for you?
Just a thought.
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http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROOMNIPUMP2001.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROOMNIPUMP2002.jpg
two pics one close up the other showing the units together.
Does this help
Good point re changing header- will try that too
Russ
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I can tell you your safe to plug them into the mains ;D and looking at the controler, you have it connected to the correct terminals, although I don't know what the terminals on the left are for.
P.S. Don't run it dry.
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left ones are for 3 phase
I was pretty sure they were wired right but what I don't know is do they both then get plugged into the mains even though they are in effect 'one'
(does that make sense ?)
If the above is correct it then I have a problem as it is what I tried yesterday with no luck.
That was before I packed it all away and had a beer!to chill
Its been a bit of a mare doing this upgrade business but I'm certain it will all be worth it ? or shall I just send it all back and carry on with my normal R/O ::) ::)
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Rather than have two plugs in your sockets, you could link the controler to the pump, that way you only have one plug,
You may also find, that the controler has a safety device that cuts your pump out when no water present, once its plumbed in, switch on and away you go.
Thats why I said don't run it dry ;D ;D
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To do that do I just run the normal wire between the two and does it matter which way?
I don't normally get involved with electrics as I am bloody useless.
If I had known it did not just plug in I would not have got this one.
Cheers 4 help though Jeff
will let you know how it goes
probably post a pic with me burnt to a crisp ;D ;D
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To do that do I just run the normal wire between the two and does it matter which way?
I don't normally get involved with electrics as I am bloody useless.
If I had known it did not just plug in I would not have got this one.
Cheers 4 help though Jeff
will let you know how it goes
probably post a pic with me burnt to a crisp ;D ;D
Just remove your 3 pin plug from the controller and put the wire into the pump along with the other mains you have already wired in. (live to live/neutral to neutral/earth to earth.............(ashes to ashes dust to dust ;D ;D)
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http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROPUMP3.jpg
Done that nothing happened ??? ??? ??? ???
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http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROPUMP3.jpg
Done that nothing happened ??? ??? ??? ???
Have you got water flowing to your pump?? if not it more than likely won't work.
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yep ??? ???
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Is the red buton a reset switch or just a screw? if a button press it and then recheck.
Have a look around it for a pressure regulating screw, it may have one and it may be set to high, Now I'm stabbing in the dark Russ. :'(
Where did you get it? do you have a link to there site?
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OK i will look around the unit for the screws ??? ???
I have tried the red button various ways ??? ???
It came from RO-MAN they do not run a support telephone line
just a helpdesk by email (i found out last week with r/o grief)
I don't think the' helpdesk' is UK based ??? ???
And it is not a lot of use to me as I need to be out grafting not sitting in front of a PC waiting for an email.
Lost three days work last week because R/O damaged on delivery and unable to get assistence until Fri/Sat
How Frustrating is this ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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There about half hour drive from me ::) I could have gone down there for you last week and got help over the counter. ::)
I have heared there not very good with emails and over the phone, never dealt with them myself, so don't know how true it is?
When you switch on your pump, do you hear anything like a click or any sort of other noise?
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Nothing at all
No noise- no lights- no pumping
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Then if your water pressure to the pump is ok, then I'm stuffed, its a shame no one else has come back to help us.
Sounds silly this one? but is your fuse ok, don't just assume it is.
I'll have alook on the web later, I'm just about to have my sunday roast. ;)
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My water pressure is crap hence the booster pump
But it is enough to run the R/O - just
I will double check fuse( did it yesterday)
Have some good grub mate
Thanks for your help to date.
I'm sure to post later
Russ
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My water pressure is crap hence the booster pump
But it is enough to run the R/O - just
I will double check fuse( did it yesterday)
Have some good grub mate
Thanks for your help to date.
I'm sure to post later
Russ
Burrrrp That was nice ;D
have just been to your pump on ro-mans site.
http://www.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/28/products_id/245?osCsid=415bdde445bc7fbb2027a5ec5a6731eb
and guess what?
The systems comes with a pressure sensing valve* to stop the pump from running dry and shows the operational pressure.
So find that screw and adjust it?
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hi russ
you need to wire the flow controller to the pump
and from the flow controller you wire the plug three gage
just follow the instructions and i think you put the one way valve in right , make sure the arrow points towards the inside of the pump ,
it will turn on and off with the tank filling, how ever word warning you will need to fit a solenoid not aball valve as the waste water flowing out will start up the pump in before the carbon and sediment filters as is is not designed to dry run so hence the solenoid to keep water in the system when full
they are noisy though yet work very well on low presure
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Cheers for advice Tony
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/russ_clark/ROPUMP3.jpg
is that white thing a solenoid??
If so then have I still got to find this adjuster/screw thingy
I am definately filling the pump in the direction of the arrow on the brass fitment
and water is getting in as it leaks like a sieve on the fittings.
I need to tighten more but they are already very tight and I ptfe taped them.
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How did you get on with it Russ, Is it working yet??
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No Mate I am waiting for RO-Man to give me a call
after exchanging several emails with photo's ,etc with them this morning
Its still as clear as mud wether the bloody thing is faulty or not >:( >:(
I should have been doing a cladding job first thing but still on the computer
Will keep u posted
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Good luck Russ, hope you get it going soon, I'm so glad I bought the smaller pump, 10 minutes and it was up and running.
Thanks for keeping me posted.
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Have you got it going yet?
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After a very long drawn out saga
I am happy to announce that yes it is all up and running.
The pump had to be re-wired about twenty different ways before it was right.
Don't get me wrong its a great piece of kit (leaks like a sieve when not pumping)
I am no electrician but you bloody need to know how 3 phase wiring colours converts with normal domestic type.
Still 13 days from ordering its here and working.
Christ it pushes out some water ;D ;D
Just what the doctor ordered.
Big thanks to Simon Sherwwood for loaning me a tank of the pure stuff
Owe you one Simon ;)
Also to Jeff1 for taking a big interest and giving advice.
Jeff1 u r probably still holding the shed roof down ;D ;D
Just need to fix the leaks and catch up on the 4 lost days of work.
Russ
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After a very long drawn out saga
I am happy to announce that yes it is all up and running.
The pump had to be re-wired about twenty different ways before it was right.
Don't get me wrong its a great piece of kit (leaks like a sieve when not pumping)
I am no electrician but you bloody need to know how 3 phase wiring colours converts with normal domestic type.
Still 13 days from ordering its here and working.
Christ it pushes out some water ;D ;D
Just what the doctor ordered.
Big thanks to Simon Sherwwood for loaning me a tank of the pure stuff
Owe you one Simon ;)
Also to Jeff1 for taking a big interest and giving advice.
Jeff1 u r probably still holding the shed roof down ;D ;D
Just need to fix the leaks and catch up on the 4 lost days of work.
Russ
Chuffed for you russ, When you get the time Russ, take a couple of piccy's for me, I'll store them on the Academy for anyone else who gets stuck in the future.
A roll of PTFE tape sound just what you need now, well done dude. ;)
P.S. No wind at the moment, so no sleep for me tonight ;D ;D
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Glad to hear it. You won't regret getting a 4040. You'll wake up in the morning to both your IBC tanks brimmed.
Simon.