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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Kev Loomes on September 14, 2007, 05:27:20 pm

Title: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Kev Loomes on September 14, 2007, 05:27:20 pm
If anyone uses a liquid extraction agent, what do you consider to be the best and most cost effective?

Am considering all the usual i.e. Hydramaster, Prochem, Chemspec, Alltec but cant make my mind up!

Cheers

Kev

p.s. it must be liquid
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: darren72 on September 14, 2007, 05:46:14 pm
Chemspec Formula 90
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Ken Wainwright on September 14, 2007, 05:53:21 pm
Water

According to the needs of the soiling and the chemistry I'm using, I may, or may not, use additives to enhance it's performance.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Joe H on September 14, 2007, 05:55:53 pm
Today used nothing but Nemesis Super Presparay.

other then that Liquid Woolsfe - Prochem
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Mike Halliday on September 14, 2007, 05:57:25 pm
I'd go along with F90, woolsafe at a high dilution and can be used at a lower dilution for tough jobs

Mike
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: stevegunn on September 14, 2007, 05:58:43 pm
Formula 90 for me too.Hydradri good too bit more economical than f90
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: lands on September 14, 2007, 06:24:09 pm
On commercail low profile (synthetic of course) Extraction pro all day long. Almost don't need a pre-spray.

Pete
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: JS2 on September 14, 2007, 07:06:31 pm
Yes, I'll go along with Pete (Ex Lands) on this.

Pete (JS2)
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: darren72 on September 14, 2007, 07:18:20 pm
I used extraction pro for over a year when i started out then i tried some formula 90 the difference was unbeliveable.Double Clean is good but extraction pro is crap.
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Fresh Clean on September 14, 2007, 07:23:39 pm
no question i my mind, it has to be CHAMPION!!!!! by craftex, you can clean car engines with it.
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: markpowell on September 14, 2007, 07:24:54 pm
Crystal green most of the time except on wool.
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Ian Rochester on September 14, 2007, 07:30:08 pm
Formula 90
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: John Kelly on September 14, 2007, 07:32:21 pm
Kev did say "liquid"
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: stevegunn on September 14, 2007, 07:35:56 pm
Trust you to read the thread properly ::)
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: lands on September 14, 2007, 07:47:26 pm
formula 90 seems to get the nod then. Freshi, Freshi, Freshi, (F%$ing) Champion is something a Geordie says when they have poo their pants.

By the way, whats the ph level of formula 90 when diluted at standard which I believe is 500-1
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: JS2 on September 14, 2007, 09:08:04 pm
Colleagues

Not wishing to change me tune, but upon reflection I do seem to remember that Formula 90 did admirable work for me about 18 months ago.  I suppose that you can't realistically differentiate that much between a liquid and powder make-up (the product manufacterers do both for good reasons), although the effect these have on the HWE machine can be considered.  So in the end, I still endorse Prochem's Extraction Pro, but enthusiastically extend my approval to Chempec's Formula 90.  Like you, I Just want to do a good job at the end of the day.

Regards

Pete (JS2)
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Phil Marlor on September 14, 2007, 09:10:28 pm

Champion is not an extraction agent, it's a pre spray.
It's a very high ph one as well.

Phil
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: francis on September 14, 2007, 09:31:45 pm
Agree with you Phil.
 Always regarded Champion as a prespray (and so do the manufacturers).  Worrying what some of our colleagues use to extract with
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on September 14, 2007, 09:51:50 pm
Well it would depend on what i had presprayed as to what i used to extract ie prespray with ultrapac renovate or multi pro use fiber & fabric to extract and leave with a low ph. It depends on the job as to what i use.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Kev Loomes on September 14, 2007, 10:51:00 pm
Cheers lads for the responses. Seems I might give F90 a go then  ;D

I have been used to using Ultimate Master which is neutral, with this higher PH level of between 9.5 - 11, I presume that this is ok for general situations, unless there is a concern with dye bleed or browning - in which case something like Fibre & Fabric rinse should be used?

Kev
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: John Kelly on September 14, 2007, 11:03:16 pm
I think most people were meaning F90 powder rather than the liquid.
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Kev Loomes on September 14, 2007, 11:52:26 pm
Hi John

Do you know if the powder is different to the liquid  ???
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: John Kelly on September 15, 2007, 12:10:40 am
Its completely different.
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: stuart_clark on September 15, 2007, 12:45:59 am
I use formula 90 liquid and its very good ! I mainly use it at full strength but you can also use it on wool
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Mike Halliday on September 15, 2007, 07:12:30 am
John, I think they are referring to the liquid, the powder is buffered and is not woolsafe & the question specifically asked about liquidextraction fluid.

Mike
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: Fresh Clean on September 15, 2007, 09:30:47 am
francis & phil, your dead right about champion it is a pre-spray, i just red the posting wrong, i'd never use it  for any other method, please forgive me! back to the question, power'd it has to be ultimate master, for bonneting i love catalyst, cfr method's excell, reclaim & for grease enzo soil one. regards to you all on this fine sunny morning freshi
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: John Kelly on September 15, 2007, 09:51:50 am
Mike, thats why I posted saying it was liquid. I sell them powder.
Title: Re: The best Extraction Agent
Post by: stuart_clark on September 15, 2007, 12:45:21 pm
My favorite powder is chemspecs formula 70 it eats protein based soils but is not woolsafe as its an enzyme, my second would be formula 90 as a high ph cleaner and one clean as a low ph woolsafe chemical, I also use quite a lot of formula 90 liquid as it is woolsafe on the low dilution and can be used in three differant strengths