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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on August 26, 2007, 09:16:03 pm

Title: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: geefree on August 26, 2007, 09:16:03 pm
HI,

who does lots of shop windows,?..... is it you guys?  ;D

do you have a lot?  to make decent money...

rows? or an odd one..

and how the hell did you get them?

cos they all have window cleaner.

curious again, sorry  ;D :P
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Post by: NWH on August 26, 2007, 09:22:55 pm
I have shops that i do twice a week and use them to get going on a monday and tuesday morning.
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Post by: tacky on August 26, 2007, 10:22:41 pm
most of this work is sowed up .handed down through family etc .u might b lucky to pick up odd shop here n their . or if verrrry lucky might b able to buy some work .  ps  im still trying so dont give up hope
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Post by: NWH on August 26, 2007, 10:23:49 pm
To be honest shop`s arn`t all that.
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Post by: dave0123 on August 26, 2007, 10:24:38 pm
I do one or to shops twice per month spar etc! but as tacky said,, there all taken alot at silly prices of £1.50 etc...


Dave
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Post by: geefree on August 26, 2007, 11:02:21 pm
Cheers,

i do think they are a waste of time personally... but every penny counts i suppose...

an odd one is useless  i feel,  as you could be setting up somewhere else and making more pro rata.
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: colley614 on August 26, 2007, 11:04:27 pm

The best way I've found is to get to all the little out the way villages in your area. If there is nobody else there canvass all the shops then you get the houses thrown in on top.  ;)
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Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 26, 2007, 11:11:42 pm
I do about £50 of shops every thursday morning.

They used to be my best earners, but since I went WFP a lot of my domestics earn more.
By the time I've driven into town, then off to where I'm doing houses I'm usually a bit down on turnover.

But I don't care.
I love doing shops. They're easy, I get to use my squeegee, it's always social, and there's always plenty of attractive lady scenery. :)
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Post by: NWH on August 26, 2007, 11:23:44 pm
I know a wc that does shops in a village that i do work in and he charges a min of £12 per shop regardless of the size,he does 1 particular shop with 4 panes of glass 8x5ft + 1 door with 12 panes on it and charges £20 per time.Now i charge high prices but for a shop of that size that takes the P***,he`s a slow worker and makes about 7-8 shops his friday mornings work,he`ll soon be losing half of them to me.They take him all friday morning to do when in real terms it`s only about an hours work.
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: Dean Aspects on August 27, 2007, 03:56:50 pm
To be honest doing shops on a weekly or fortnightly cycle is a bit too much of a bind for me
I like the flexability of being able to just go away for a week when i want but if you have these type of jobs you either have to leave them for a week or arrange for someone else to do them which personally i dont like

I have been w/cing for 12 years and only have a few shops might get rid too much hassle ;D

Dean
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Post by: m.b.s. on August 27, 2007, 04:20:24 pm
i have ;ods of shops weekly fortnightley the way i got them was just handed them a bussiness card lots of them asked for a price there and then and asked me when i can do them prices vary from £3 upward they only take a few minuits each shop to do i also do houses i preffer the shops as they are easier to do say you had a house for £8 it coud take 1/2 hour were as you could do 3 £3 shops in 10 mins a third of the thme no ladders no hard work but you are commited week in week out so have a think before you start thinking about this
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Post by: d s windowcleaning on August 27, 2007, 06:12:45 pm
read my post . felt sorry for the old man . ive now got 3 rows of shops to do . & 9 pubs & 4 clubs  ;D .
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Post by: matt on August 27, 2007, 08:47:36 pm
i do a few shops and a few pubs

ideal early in the morning work ;)
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Post by: david thomas on August 27, 2007, 08:57:55 pm
people with old A frame ladders and no scrims and drink cheap tea  do shop windows
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Post by: SparklingWC on August 27, 2007, 08:59:51 pm
mmm...tea ;)

i'd like to do shop windows, just so i could get an early start for the day before carrying on with domestic work. but seems like most of the work is taken - and i wouldnt know how to price it anyway.
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Post by: matt on August 27, 2007, 09:02:49 pm
i was asked to price a hairdressers about 2 weeks ago, the guy who does it is very crap

i turned up, handed over my " welcome pack" and gave them a price, when they said the guy does it for £1.75, i took my pack back, gave thema card and said " i will be on my way then, here is my card "

£1.75  ::) ::) not worth me even getting out of the car for that
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Post by: SparklingWC on August 27, 2007, 09:06:01 pm
what does your 'welcome pack' contain? just incase i do ever get the chance to take on some work (future reference)
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Post by: m.b.s. on August 27, 2007, 09:07:26 pm
dont knock it till you try it david thomas i prob earn more in a day doing shops than you in a week i have been doing shops for 10 years now any way i dont drink tea and dont use scrims ether only coffee and microcloths lots of money in shops if priced correctly as a newby on hear i wouldnt use poasts like that because if you need help people wont respond to you
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 27, 2007, 09:42:54 pm
dont knock it till you try it david thomas i prob earn more in a day doing shops than you in a week i have been doing shops for 10 years now any way i dont drink tea and dont use scrims ether only coffee and microcloths lots of money in shops if priced correctly as a newby on hear i wouldnt use poasts like that because if you need help people wont respond to you
Too right.

Average shopfronts 3 or 4 minutes for 3 or 4 quid.

Get enough of them and they're a great earner, and so easy and social.
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Post by: Paul Coleman on August 27, 2007, 09:52:07 pm
dont knock it till you try it david thomas i prob earn more in a day doing shops than you in a week i have been doing shops for 10 years now any way i dont drink tea and dont use scrims ether only coffee and microcloths lots of money in shops if priced correctly as a newby on hear i wouldnt use poasts like that because if you need help people wont respond to you
Too right.

Average shopfronts 3 or 4 minutes for 3 or 4 quid.

Get enough of them and they're a great earner, and so easy and social.

I only do two shops.  One is where I also clean two houses for the owner and the other is a job that I subcontract from a company that is based a bit far away for it to be worth doing it themselves.  Both are reasonable earners.  Nothing special but fair enough.
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Post by: NWH on August 27, 2007, 09:53:27 pm
David Thomas it would be helpful if you were to fill in a few more details about yourself.
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Post by: pete albion on August 27, 2007, 09:57:21 pm
I'm Selling my shop and pub work in Brighton.
Please contact me if interested
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Post by: m.b.s. on August 27, 2007, 09:58:42 pm
if you was in leeds west yorkshire i would snap them up
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Post by: cvdewsbury on August 27, 2007, 09:59:39 pm
whats the going rate now for shops x8 per month?
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Post by: pete albion on August 27, 2007, 10:02:41 pm
not sure what the going rate is ?

but have a idea in my head of what i want !
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Post by: Pat Purcell on August 27, 2007, 10:18:17 pm
One upside to doing shop windows is that people get to see you and your work and if you have a sign written van or even a t-shirt with the company name and logo it can generate other work
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 27, 2007, 11:18:23 pm
One upside to doing shop windows is that people get to see you and your work and if you have a sign written van or even a t-shirt with the company name and logo it can generate other work
Very true.
I haven't got either, but most of my work is from people seeing me in town.
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: Ian_Giles on August 28, 2007, 06:28:30 am
people with old A frame ladders and no scrims and drink cheap tea  do shop windows

really??
I'm just off out to do my own shops, that's over £200 worth every Monday morning, almost entirely done WFP too.
I have shops and commercial stuff to do most days of the week, they are the backbone of my round.
It's taken me close on 25 years to get there though, and yes, they are hard to get hold of, cheap to clean too, but if you have enough of them they can be very good money indeed.

And as a result of being in view constantly with a signed van and logo'd polo shirt & cap I'm being constantly asked to quote residential work too ;)

Ian
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: windolene on August 28, 2007, 02:07:22 pm
Hi,

Same here.

Have been back an hour now with nearly £200.00  from 50 shops in two parades. Same every week no matter what the weather.

Kevin WINDOLENE. ;D
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: m.b.s. on August 28, 2007, 02:47:14 pm
there you go david thomas not what you thought is it  noticed you havent replyed not even to say sorry get your facts stright befor your fingers talk
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Post by: Feen on August 28, 2007, 08:05:47 pm
Poor old David Thomas :) :) :) I only have two shops and am still embarassed asking for the money ;D ;D Now I know I have nothing to be embarassed about and that I need more :o :o
Title: shops
Post by: tonyoliver on August 28, 2007, 11:29:00 pm
they are pants beware of the people who i wont reveal the sterotype but will have over  on in seconds and leave you fuming for months here it goes
you are cleaning a shop a shop keeper approches you and says can u do us..
you go to the shop and say yes five pounds ...they haggle and it becomes 3.50....
you clean away ,but every second you are being watched.

you finish but they  find a fault  a mark a stain or worse.then  can you do the sign? insides? upstairs?  ect  ALL no extra cost  natrually.you being nice oblige ..thinking extra work it will be easyer next week ect  you go in ask for money but seem to get ignored.ten mins later the manager is not there  no one seems to know who is in charge,custys come in get served you still wait .you get visiby angry
he then throws 2.00 at you and says hes not happy with the standard go away.
a year later forgeting its you he mugged off asks can you  clean my windows ? guess the reply
once after most of the above i was offered fried chickin instead of my payment not nice chickin greasy fowl looking stuff and seemed put out i didnt want his food i wanted cash
now heres the advice bit charge 15.00 fir ???st clean  you will be spending a lot of time on it i promise and your normal the next if they dont fit the sterotype charge the normal rate first time 
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Post by: Pat Purcell on August 29, 2007, 12:07:54 am
I truly cannot get over some of the crap you lads get to deal with >:(
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Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on August 29, 2007, 12:10:27 am
i do a few shops monday morning and by 8am have made my first £50
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Post by: geefree on August 29, 2007, 12:10:58 am
Thats why i asked... and sat back to learn .... i love this forum.

 ;)
Title: Re: shops
Post by: Ian_Giles on August 29, 2007, 06:14:17 am
they are pants beware of the people who i wont reveal the sterotype but will have over  on in seconds and leave you fuming for months here it goes
you are cleaning a shop a shop keeper approches you and says can u do us..
you go to the shop and say yes five pounds ...they haggle and it becomes 3.50....
you clean away ,but every second you are being watched.

you finish but they  find a fault  a mark a stain or worse.then  can you do the sign? insides? upstairs?  ect  ALL no extra cost  natrually.you being nice oblige ..thinking extra work it will be easyer next week ect  you go in ask for money but seem to get ignored.ten mins later the manager is not there  no one seems to know who is in charge,custys come in get served you still wait .you get visiby angry
he then throws 2.00 at you and says hes not happy with the standard go away.
a year later forgeting its you he mugged off asks can you  clean my windows ? guess the reply
once after most of the above i was offered fried chickin instead of my payment not nice chickin greasy fowl looking stuff and seemed put out i didnt want his food i wanted cash
now heres the advice bit charge 15.00 fir ???st clean  you will be spending a lot of time on it i promise and your normal the next if they dont fit the sterotype charge the normal rate first time 

I'm glad I've not had anything like this myself, but I would never dream of haggling, I give a price and stick with it, and any extra work is also charged for. They want the inside of the door done? That'll be an extra £1.50 and they get told before it's done too!

Ian
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: Dean Aspects on August 29, 2007, 06:41:34 am
I haggled once awell and lived to regret it so now i never haggle my price is my price take it or leave it

Dean
Title: Re: SHOP WINDOWS.
Post by: TennetClean on August 29, 2007, 02:21:01 pm
I never understood why people bothered with shops.  I knew someone who did them, and it ended up he was earning about £14 an hour on them, but with a lot of hassle.

Better to spend your time on good quality domestic if you ask me.

As for it being "social", no offense but if you take jobs because they are social then in my mind thats not a very good buinsess sense.  Better to take jobs that are good earners.  If you cant cope with being alone then your in the wrong job or get a partner to work with you.  Just my humble opinion.
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Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 29, 2007, 02:54:53 pm
If you want a boring life go ahead, I'd rather see a few mates and ogle women.

Strikes me that you're work obsessed.
There's more to life. ::)
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Post by: geefree on August 29, 2007, 05:57:07 pm
squeaky you perv  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Sir Squeaky on August 29, 2007, 06:50:59 pm
Yep. ;D
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Post by: sgibsoncleaning on August 29, 2007, 07:03:18 pm
i've been reading this with interest. it seems to me that  places vary a lot.
i couple of years ago i had a one off job in norwich city centre. there must have been a dozen boys out window cleaning all looking at us. i was in early the other day and nothing much has changed.
now i am sure that some places make money but not round here they seem to be cutting each others throat and end up lucky if they have 2 shops next to each other. one boy i chatted to, seemed to think a fiver for big shop front was top money.
none seem to have any decent gear, not a decent signed van in site just dodgy old motors. in the suburbs you see some nice vans and boys earning good cash.
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Post by: Karl Wheeler on August 29, 2007, 07:08:22 pm
Hi Pete
I would be interested in your shops please contact me on 07711865161.
Thanks
Karl