Clean It Up

UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 10:09:51 am

Title: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 10:09:51 am
Hi,how tall will the new superlites go because I am doing my leaflets and adverts and I need to know how high they will go so I can put my working heights on my adverts, thanks, Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 10:24:12 am
Working height will be 60ft, this will equate to an actual height of the pole of 56' 6".

One point I would say is that working at these heights even with a pole of this lightness is still an acquired skill and takes a lot of practice to control. Before attempting any work at this height I would reccomend practicing at about 40ft to start with and then build up to using it at full height. Even though the pole can easily be operated by one person, at this height I would recommend that using it be a two person operation. The second person will be the 'hose' man and help with adding and removing sections (some will disagree with me but they usually will have had years of practice at these heights).
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: sair on August 23, 2007, 10:31:10 am
after testing it at height for you,

and being used to 70 feet for years i still have a spare man working close by i would add 45 is not an issue its that next section then it becomes a whole new ball game the pole you thought you knew is now not that pole at all.

Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 10:49:14 am
what weight will it be at that height?
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: williamx on August 23, 2007, 10:51:13 am
Alex

Do you have a confirmed date when you will be selling them? will there be a waiting process from you taking the order to delivery? and have you got some prices and heights they come in?

Sent you a email but no response as yet.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 11:53:20 am
Hi Guys,

WilliamX, I'm afraid that as of yet I have not seen your email, it might wend its way later who knows!

The statistics are as follows for the Super-Lite2

Pole...........Sections........Approx. Weight
SL-35.........6x1.7m...........1.3kg
SL-40.........7x1.7m...........1.62kg
SL-45.........8x1.7m...........1.94kg
SL-51.........9x1.7m...........2.26kg
SL-56.........10x1.7m.........2.58kg

The weights are for the pole only.

These weights are on the website here is the link http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Pole_Weights_and_Lengths.html

Prices are yet to be fully finalised.

But as an introductory offer we should be looking at the complete pole package selling at about £350 for the SL-35 base package. Extra sections can be added to this to make it into the larger sizes, these should be about £52 per section.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 12:35:38 pm
sair, how did you find these poles? Alex, do I have to put my name down for that introductory offer? does the 35ft include, brush, 2mm jets, hose, and ez snap end fitting ? Luke

oh and what will the diameter of the sections be because if I am carrying 10 sections around in my expert I will need to know if they will fit! Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 01:47:48 pm
You can put your name down if you want but we should have enough to fulfill your order anyway.

The sections are 48mm in diameter, but the first 6 slide up inside each other so you would only be carrying 5 sections around effectively.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Jack Avery on August 23, 2007, 04:47:04 pm
Hello Alex
How is progress with the SLX Telescopic pole?
kind regards
Jack Avery
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 04:50:52 pm
Hi Jack,

The fundamentals are all in place, we just have to refine a couple of details (minor but of importance). The European factory is closed until the end of August so we are waiting until September to finishing off these details.

We hope to release them as a 20ft, 25ft, and 30ft pole to start with. We feel that this will then complement the new Super-Lite range which starts at 35ft.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Count Phil on August 23, 2007, 05:00:32 pm
What is the slx?
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 05:13:05 pm
The SL-X is simply the worlds most advanced Water Fed Pole System - Coming soon from the home of the Super-Lite.

(How's that for a bit of hype!!) :)
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Clear Vision on August 23, 2007, 05:37:35 pm
cant wait to hear what your new poles are like!

You lost a order today! (again)

You never seem to answer your phone?
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 06:06:03 pm
There is always the website!

 There were two members of staff in the office today but the phones were very busy and a lot of packing had also to be done for shipment, can't be in 2 places at once :) If you leave a message on the machine then someone will always get back to you.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 06:44:46 pm
is slx a water fed pole or a water fed pole system? Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: NWH on August 23, 2007, 06:48:41 pm
POLE.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 07:07:01 pm
Alex, do you think that these poles will make the big manufacturers take notice and basically copy your ideas because at the moment these poles sound like their going to be pretty good. Do you think the new superlites would be used by large cleaning companies who require very srong and durable poles because they employ staff that don't care for the work tools?
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: john tomkins on August 23, 2007, 07:29:20 pm
There is always the website!

 There were two members of staff in the office today but the phones were very busy and a lot of packing had also to be done for shipment, can't be in 2 places at once :) If you leave a message on the machine then someone will always get back to you.

You've lost £100s and £100s off me too over the last few months by not picking the phone up.
Don't think many are impressed with an answer machine (me especially) I want a human being at the end of the line, not the promise of a call back sometime ::)
If you didn't spend so much time on here you could do a bit to help em out ;)
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: NWH on August 23, 2007, 07:44:12 pm
His time on here is just as helpful as it is in the office,i`m sure he has saved people loads of time and running around by simply telling them the solution to there problems on the forum.You might ask a question tonight and with his help be able to go to the van and fix it in minutes instead of having to wait until the morning until some suppliers open and tell you the same thing.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: jouk45 on August 23, 2007, 07:51:09 pm
His time on here is just as helpful as it is in the office,i`m sure he has saved people loads of time and running around by simply telling them the solution to there problems on the forum.You might ask a question tonight and with his help be able to go to the van and fix it in minutes instead of having to wait until the morning until some suppliers open and tell you the same thing.

spot on NWH,
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: john tomkins on August 23, 2007, 08:14:49 pm
His time on here is just as helpful as it is in the office,i`m sure he has saved people loads of time and running around by simply telling them the solution to there problems on the forum.You might ask a question tonight and with his help be able to go to the van and fix it in minutes instead of having to wait until the morning until some suppliers open and tell you the same thing.
Im certain not all of his potential customers know he is on this website, they would prefer a human to speak to, not have to wait to see if you get a return call, I just use others now, Cleantech always answer and are very helpful so it cant be that hard .Clear Vision obviously had the same problem.

I know some of you love him but I'm just stating facts ;)

Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 09:33:31 pm
Hi John,

Gardiner Pole Systems is not actually my company! I work as a consultant to them developing new products and ideas, etc, and sometimes provide technical support when asked.  I primarily run my own commercial window cleaning firm but help out with Gardiner Pole Systems, as and when I'm needed.

The Company is owned and run by my sister Kirsty.  The Company was started as an Internet based WFP supply business as this provides the ability to customers to access information and products around the clock.  We do not have a brochure or operate a sales team, we rely just on our website profile which happens to be one of the highest ranked window cleaning supply websites  in the world. The telephone support was added later due to customer demand and will no doubt increase as the Company grows.

I come on the Forum because I like to help out and it's amazing what I learn from everyone else.  It also raises the profile of the Company which is good for business (and Kirsty!).
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 09:36:30 pm
are you a partner or do you own a share of the company?
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 09:48:17 pm
Nosey! ;D

I am not a partner and I do not have a share in it either.

Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 09:51:02 pm
sorry to be nosey!!! so you don't benefit from Gardiners sales apart from getting a wage, or do you get comission? :)
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 09:52:25 pm
ps. you dont have to answer that if you dont want to because its non of my buisness!!!Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: DASERVICES on August 23, 2007, 09:54:05 pm
"Cleantech always answer and are very helpful so it cant be that hard ."

Not what I'm hearing, there is a lot of murmurings going on about Cleantech.

I have found Kirsty to be one of the most honest persons around unlike some companies that fob you off with equipment you do not need.

Yip I also hate the answer phone but Kirsty always gets.

If you want a person on the phone and pay a higher price then Cleantech is the answer.

If you are willing to wait for an honest opinion then my vote is Gardners, at least they will not ask payment for the advise they have given.

Each to their own though.

Doug
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 09:58:00 pm
I dont see Cleantech on here regularly helping people out, Gardiners do! I think Alex is the most posted to person for advice, Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 10:04:14 pm
Some of the products that Gardiner Pole Systems sell and will be selling in the future are my own registered and protected designs.  These products have been developed and tested at my own expense and because of this I do receive a license fee for any of these products that Gardiner Pole Systems or their distributors sell.  I currently have four products in development that Gardiner Pole Systems will be selling.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 10:07:14 pm
so one is a brush, another is the sl-x and the other is the superlite 2, am I right, but that means there is one more, what is that? Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: DASERVICES on August 23, 2007, 10:11:33 pm
Alex,

Did you ever get round to a float valve for the tank positioned at the lid.!!!
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 10:15:34 pm
The other is two types of gooseneck, a new all aluminium one will be hitting the shelves in about two weeks and another has been developed to match the new brush.

People will start to think I've put you up to these questions to get a bit of publicity!  Do you want to work on a commission basis  ;)?

Hi Doug

Thanks for the comments.  It's nice to hear what customers think (good and bad).  I did give your idea some thought but economically it would not have been viable to have had the lids manufactured due to the relatively limited market for them.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 10:17:55 pm
will the new brush have a german d type thread? and why does it need a matching gooseneck? Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 23, 2007, 10:19:19 pm
You'll see.
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 23, 2007, 10:20:28 pm
come on, will it have a vikan style thread?? Luke
Title: Re: ALEX GARDINER! HOW BIG WILL THE NEW SUPERLITES GO?
Post by: john tomkins on August 23, 2007, 11:34:50 pm
I dont see Cleantech on here regularly helping people out, Gardiners do! I think Alex is the most posted to person for advice, Luke
Yes and thats down primarily to you ;D
I like Alex and his help and info too.