Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dan roberts on August 16, 2007, 10:11:32 pm
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Hi, a mate of mine wants me to do his bar carpets in his pub, what is a rough idea on how much and how long it takes? obv if its lagged in crap then alot longer, but its not too bad when u look at it, gets done yearlyish.
Any thoughts Gentlemen?
Dan
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Pub carpets...£2/sqM minimum
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thanks. Length times width = sq yes? (x£2 min)
Pythagoris worked that beauty out didnt he? :-\
So pre spray with what chem, and extract with hot water extraction liquid yeh?
Mighty obliged with all suggestions
Dan
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Roughly how many living room carpets does it fill? times that by your living room carpet price BUT how much do you want the job? what about payment 7 days,1 day, 30 days? chewing gum? who else is quoting Chemdry, splash and dash?
Ask loads of questions most publicans want it cheap, I try and sell on dry so they can open up without fear of drowning.
Shaun
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Thanks Shaun, man this site is cool.
Ok being a newbie, what is chem dry, how is it applied, what machine, technique?
AND also, is there ways of cleaning carpets that make Rainbow Warriors happy, and people like Swampy and all other activists? Only I wonder that if there were a eco friendly substitute, it may well sell better down here where I am.
Thoughts please....
Dan :)
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Nemesis from www.restormate.com if not try the .co.uk at the end instead, expensively cheap if you do your maths!
Sounds as though you could do with some training first though! if you don't know what Chemdry is or should I say who they are well you are definatley new or have been living in a shoe box ;D
www.chemdry.co.uk they are a franchised competitor
Shaun
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ah I see, its not what, its who!! :-[
Im goona do prochrm one day course next month. then advertise...
how much is insurance?
dan
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Dan dont forget to agitate mate this will ussually make a large diffeance to the end result.
Dene
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and keep it drier and stops you from fetching loads of buckets of water.
Shaun
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Best form of agitation Aqua? Hard brush and a chemical?
Dan
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Scrubbing machine like a slow speed buffer, if it's a pub I would use an enzyme product wwwhydramster.co.uk sell some really good stuff ring them and ask.
Shaun
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Dan:
Is the carpet a Belgian Wilton?. Some pubs/restaurants etc buy BW's so just be on your guard.
Will
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Well said Mel :D :D
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Yes mel, but everybody starts somwere, and at least he is asking, and he is considering a course,
to be fair I would suggest as their are so many c/c in your area, you ask 1 of them to take you along for some practical work. give them the job, and just take a cut
it will be beifficial in the long run.
Any offers, all of you Exceter c/c ?
geoff
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Mel you should read the book "how to win friends and influence people"
You have just come onto this forum in a blaze! we try to be friendly folk who look after the new comers to the industry and make sure that they are guided in the correct direction not made fun of!
Shaun
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Shaun
Agree with what you say.
We all start somewere and at different levels.
However the difference is knowledge and the forums have made a big diffrence over the past few years.
Its good that people feel confident enough to ask.
So lets not knock them :-X
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From what i can see Dan is asking all the right questions and thirsting for carpet cleaning knowledge, everybody has to start somewhere, it's not an exclusive club, surely everyones welcome, theres room for the cheapies and the expensive guys, as long as he gets training then he will do well and find his niche in the business,
Mel, --- you obviously had the fortune of being born a carpet cleaner and never having to ask questions, for the rest of us we've got the sense to ask and be educated, after all it's free to ask a question still isn't it.
regards
steve
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Thank u all for the replies! I am gobsmacked with Mels response, after being helped continuously for two years on this forum by all, a relative newbie comes in and mouths off like that?
Well I never!!
:o
Dan
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Mel perhaps we can start again because everyone is welcome and even veteran forum members are learning all the time, isn't that right Mossy?
Shaun
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Dan,
In some ways I have to agree with Melanie, though her delivery leaves something to be desired.
It sounds as though you haven't made any purchases as yet and you have had a chat with the landlord, he has offered you the job (if the price is right) and you are now looking into it further, which is the correct way to go about it.
However, I have just looked on yell.com and there are already A LOT of carpet cleaners in the Exeter area, including several who are paying out £,000s for an enhanced listing and web link on yell.com. It would be interesting if Melanie filled out her profile so we could see who she is and who she trades as!
Getting just one pub job doesn't justify investing in machinery and advertising, or even guarantee that you will get another job! Competition is fierce.
Pubs are often the worst jobs you can do, their carpets are generally baked and inground with chewing gum. There is a good chance of shrinkage depending upon the carpet type, especially if you don't know what you are doing.
Even now I still hate doing pub carpets and we have probably 50+ pubs on our books as regular customers
They are also often looking for the cheapest price and also an almost impossible "as new" finish. Don't expect that just because you did it this time that it is a guarantee repeat business, there is a good chance that the next "newbie" to come along will get a go for even less money.
Ask yourself, why are they asking you to do their carpet if you haven't ever done it before?
Don't take this personnally but they are obviously not looking for the best quality of service as you have no experience, they are not working off recommendations as you have nobody to recommend you, they are basically looking for someone to do it cheaper than it was done the last time, but they will expect the exact same quality of finish, or better! Are you able to give them that?
The title of your thread relates to price, so you are also obviously primarily interested in how much you will get for the job. Personally I would go on the course, see what's involved, test the market for prices and opportunities and then, if the work is there, look at purchasing a machine and making a go of it.
I would say though that the Exeter area looks pretty much saturated now will carpet cleaners of all abilities and prices
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I have to agree with the last post and I have been following this one with curiuosity for the past week and now Dan says he's been getting loads of help on this forum for the past two years, in that case how could he not know who Chemdry is and seemingly have zilch knowledge about carpet cleaning
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Agree with the post above. In two years i'm sure there is time to fit at least a one day training course on BASIC carpet cleaning :o
Damian.
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Some people toy with the idea of Carpet Cleaning but circumstances do not let them take it up.
Dan has probably decided that the time is right for him.
As some people say we have all got to start some where.
I would not start with a pub. But please do not use this Forum to knock other members.
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Personally-I WAS NOT KNOCKING!
Damian.
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I only looked at yell and there were two pages in Exeter alone, 4 of whom had web links.
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its probably why im finding it blxxdy hard to get of the ground then :(
matt
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Boys and girls, thank u for advice :-\.
There is work out there for all trades and services, I am in a position where cc does not have to be my main income, so its just a project of which im sure will cover my costs and give me a return in time, as a very reputable cc in Exeter told me, one who has been in the game for a long long time.
Up until this link all my questions for the last two years have been met with sensible honest and positive replies, but all of a sudden? Its turned into a wierd forum about a service that can only be provided by so many, well, thats BULLpoop, surely carpet cleaners retire and or die at some time? Or are they also IMMORTAL?
I have been considering and looking into cc for two years, hense being on this site for two years off and on, and now? im going to start a business in cc, AFTER doing courses, hense my questions prev on which is the best course.
So unless you have constuctive views on this I'd rather you didnt respond at all and take your struggling business stress away from my viewing, its depressing. If you have time to try and put off more competition, you surely have time to get of your ass and get some more business for yourselves instead.
To the vast majority of you, thanks again for all advice. much appreciated.
Dan
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Dan:
Sorry but tbh your comment about Chemdry being some sort of pre-spray shows a serious lack of knowledge about this industry.
Chemdry are synonomous (?) with carpet cleaning the world over. Even people outside the industry know who they are.
To have even been contemplating starting a cc business for 2 years surely you must've have done SOME market research into your competitors?
Will
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Well said Dan, I am thinking of moving my team of 4 carpet cleaners down south to essex, streets are paved wif gold down there?
PS all the time the essex cc are panicin and moaning they will take the eye off the ball, you move in mate and clear up. good luck to ya! Phil
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I thought Dan was in Exeter.
I was in Essex last week As I said last time Miles and Miles of houses along A127 and A13 ; and then you could always pop across other side of river. ;D
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i am ;D
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Hi Guys
It's London where the streets are paved with gold, or so Dick Whittington said.
Essex is like any other area, it supports the number of CC's pro rata to it's population and disposable income.
Carpet cleaning is an uregulated market and therefore market forces will prevail.
There will always be room for a determined person to break into any area but it will not be easy.
Cheers
Doug
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Not like it is up here, if you can find a penny lying in the gutter you're doing well ! :'(
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Dan
There's something about your posts which could easily cause suspision and the points have been noticed and commented on above, not least, the faux pas, about Chem Dry.
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Hi Guys
Lets keep it polite please !
Cheers
Doug
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Im am a bit lost on this one, as far as I can see he has only asked for help y has that caused people to get their A*se in their hands. I live and work in Devon and I for one will always be happy to help anyone. So Dan (or anybody else for that matter) if I can help e-mail me and ill send you my number and we can chat. I am by no means an expert but I have nearly 10 years under my belt.
Regards
Duncan
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I am going to lock topic and have had time to delete last few comments