Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Derek on October 14, 2004, 05:47:53 pm
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Hi
The dates have now been announced for NCCA two day training courses for 2005
2004
November 26th & 27th
2005
February 18th & 19th
May 20th & 21st
July 29th & 30th
Sept 30th & Oct 1st
November 25th & 26th
All courses are on Friday/Saturday and held at the NSPCC Training centre in Leicester
To book contact the NCCA on Tel: 0116 2719550
Derek
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all proffesional ccs....... spot the cowboy ccs and remove them ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Chris
The NCCA may be running one...I will check it out for you
Derek
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The IICRC or whatever seems to be promoting itself and appears to have similiar aims to The NCCA
Although I intend to do the Course hopefuly in Nov and get my ticket to join NCCA I wonder if I am picking right horse.
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Ian
IICRC has been around in the UK for a number of years now but has just opened its own administration office this last year.
IICRC is a Certification Board NOT a Trade Association and they do produce some excellent cleaning standard procedures
IICRC is owned by almost thirty Trade Associations in America, Australia, Canada and of course the NCCA in the UK
This is why the NCCA invited two speakers from IICRC to speak at Carpex also why the President of IICRC came over to visit. Paul Pearce, a Director of the NCCA is also a Vice President of IICRC.
So you can clearly see that NCCA and IICRC are working together to promote cleaning and cleaning standards in the UK
I hope this explanation puts things into perspective... thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain this to many others who may not be aware of the relationships
Derek
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Thanks for posting the dates for this course, as ive only been a CC for 6 months or so i havnt got round to doing a course yet ( yes i know i should have done it before i started :-[) and joining the NCCA seems like a good idea. Definatley gonna go to one of those dates.
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Derek
Did a Prochem course last year.
Iwould like to join the NCCA,is the course the same ? if so do i have to do it again to become a member
paul
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Anyone know the cost of the NCCA course Paul
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The July 2004 course was £299.63 inc vat with a credit of £58.75 inc vat if you join within 2 months of the course dates so I guess it will be around that this year and next.
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Hi
Following on from my previous post I have now determined that the NCCA will be running a Spot & Stain course in 2005.
Feb 12th 2005 at the NSPCC training centre in Leicester.
At the present time the NCCA are not recognising Prochem courses as an entry into membership of the Association
Derek
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Derek
Have to ask why not recognising, were they ever!
Len
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How much is the spot removal coures?
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Nick
You cant afford it as no good for acne
Len ;D
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Being tight Why does NCCA course cost more for two days than commercial companies
Is there a charge for exam
Still plan to do it just like to ask questions
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One of the reasons our charges are more is because for the NCCA training is an income for us, ofcourse we would like to sell you a membership as well, although this is not compulsory. In many cases suppliers will be hoping to sell you (quite rightly) machines, chemicals etc., Also the suppliers training will possibly be product specific. The NCCA depending on the numbers attending will have at least 2 instructors available giving, I hope a wealth of practicle experiance. The courses are pretty well residential for the NCCA so you will get guidance, assistance, education for around 36 hours. Of course it does not stop there as we like the suppliers will continue to be on hand.
We also charge a registration fee within the course charges which goes towards your membership should you wish to join within 2 months.
I hope this goes someway to answering your valued question.
Paul Pearce
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why do you not recognise prochem course. is the ncca course more advanced
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Many years ago the Prochem courses, when training was undertaken by Ron Tilley himself, were accepted as the levels of training were assessed by the NCCA as being to the standards required....applicants still had to have been in business for two years and endorsed by Prochem.
The practice ceased when Ron retired from running the training.
Derek
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hi to all
i know this will probably be a daft question but as u know im new to this and just wondering what NCCP is???? :-\
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Maclock,
Answer to this on thread entitled ''IICRC course''
Regards.
Martin S.
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The NCCA is the initials of the National Carpet Cleaners Association... see website:
www.ncca.co.uk
Derek
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Derek
Sorry to say Matlock on a wind up, very sad!
Bet I don’t get a response?
Len
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hi to all
this one just for len, im honestly not on a wind up, i didnt know so sorry for asking, i thought this was to help, as i say we are just starting out and would like to have abit knowledge about all kind of cleaning, if i cant ask them kind of questions, len tell me wot i can ask without offend anyone......
p.s and its maclock not matlock
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just to say thanks to derek, ive got the ncca to send me ut an membership pack, it was interesting read again thanks
maclock
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are the NCCA doing any courses on protection?
I mean fabric protection, not the horses head on the pillow protection!
Shaun
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Maclock
Sorry for the miss spelling, but I won’t apologise for the wind up, if you have not master one in the cleaning game how can you master any, you start of with builder clean then want to all the courses under the sun, I love the one re fire and floods, trauma, ducting courses will you have time to earn any money. ??? ???
If you don’t know the trade org names nccp ??? I also liked the words thanks interesting reading again!
No way am I offended I will leave to my peers to judge!
Len
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Hi Derek
Are there any courses scheduled for Ireland, North or South in the future?
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len
thats fair comment, but i do thk u were i bit unfair sayin it was a wind up, i do realise i could never do all theses courses at once, but whats wrong with wanting to learn them, im only asking for information on them.
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I took another look on NCCA web site I was amazed at the varity of courses
However I have only ever seen advertised Two day course, and Spot and Stain
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Hi Guys
The NCCA courses are available when the demand for them is there
We tend to hold them in Leicester as the facilities there are excellent.
To travel to Ireland would incur additional costs, maybe this is something we could look into for the future
Derek
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Maclock
I really do understand your enthusiastic approach, but you need to sort out where your core business is then expand on it, don’t be a jumping bean.
If you are serious in becoming a cc find a mentor who will guide you.
Len
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One suggestion I would have for the NCCA is to allow Newbies practical experience of carpet & upholstery cleaning during the course.
Paul & Pawlo offer excellent advice and the course runs smoothly, even if there is a lot to cover, however I found that I needed to step forward and actually ask to use the equipment.
Understandably there are time constraints with so much theory to learn and take in over 2 days, however I still think it would be worthwhile to fit some form of practical training into the 2 day course.
Best regards
Cheryl
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Hi Cheryl
Your point has been discussed at length by the NCCA training team over the last few years and you are right there is a need.
Problem:... Getting sufficient carpet/upholstery in one place for delegates to clean let alone the infinite variety of fibres and fabrics.
We have thought about Hotels.... downtime for the Hotel a problem plus lack of variety
Other... where would you store a significant quantity of these items and think of the economics and logistics of the exercise
Derek
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Hi Cheryl
Thanks for your comments. As Derek said we have discussed this many times and it is difficult. However If I remember rightly you were the only one that really wanted to have a go. Whilst delegates are interested in seeing the machinery work very few want to have a go in front of their peers, even me sometimes. In fact if you had been on the last course you would have seen me struggle trying to get some wheels to lift up out of the way on a rotary, and me it's alledged that I am a seasoned pro or whatever. Red faced would be a good pair of words. So I do understand why some don't want to have a go.
Paul Pearce
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If members would put their approximate locations e.g. Nth Worcs on their profiles, they would probably have offers of local Days Out with an established operator. This is really the only way to get practical experience......any newcomers are welcome to take me up on this.
Trevor
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maybe im old fashioned .dont you think sitting in the crowd on what is really a jolly.is not real work experience. have fun ok , but i have never in 12 years been asked if i am a member of the ncca, if you really want join the guild of master craftsmen,far nicer crest to put on your advertising. and if you think this will make your insurance or liabillity premiums less think again, of course nothin wrong with the ncca. but do you know you can set up your own diploma course in your chosen name for less., when did a customer last say to you i dont want a clean if you are not a member of the costly elite cca.save money by insurance and go on holliday. sherlock says 8)
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Sherlock,
You have totally missed the main reason for the existence of the NCCA.
A do-it-yourself diploma is just a bit of tat to con the customer.
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oh, i thought you were making money out of it.
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Who crowned you "The worlds no 1 upholstery cleaner"
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Nr_Neil, I an just looking at my ncca certificate dated 11 April 1997, signed by Mr Paul Pearce. I cannot remember where the venue was but it was certainly in either Dublin or Belfast. Could we generate enough interest to get another course over here?.
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Fintan
Arrangements are being made to put together for a training programme for Ireland.
Derek
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Hi nr_neil
The same bloke use's a floor wand to clean it with :o :o :o
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I thought Ireland was a seperate EU state. If NCCA operates in Ireland should it not change its name to ECCA
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nr- Neil
You see, the little people must be with you, Derek says "the wheels of progress are moving" but if you don't ask, you dont get?
Barry
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Thanks Derek, please keep nr neil and myself posted on any developments.
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I too am a newby at cc, 1 year only, didnt relies how much you need to know, just to know the basics. Going to try and book the course for 20/21 May, ??? ???