Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Pittmonkey on August 09, 2007, 08:09:36 pm
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Ok after reading a few post on this new brush I thought I’d give it a try…umm!!!
not sure what to make of it at the moment, only ever used Vikan Flocked so may just need to get the feel a bit more. :-\
I have always lifted off the glass to rinse but would using a Mono Fill Brush allow you to rinse on, is there a certain technique in doing this?
Wayne
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sorry mate, I don't know yet, when I get my system I will find out! Luke
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Providing it`s not a first clean with a mono brush and a slightly higher flow rate i rinse on the glass,like i say as long as it`s not a first clean.The vikan brush that you`ve been using retains the dirt and is hopeless for rinsing on the glass,for rinsing on with a mono brush from time to time run your fingers through the bristles to get rid of cobwebs etc.Get an old comb and comb through the bristles every now and again,this enables you to clean out right down to the stock.
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Hi Luke
Just had a look again at your brush pics, It's the same brush you have although mine dosen't have Ionics on it although it was bought from a Ionics ditributor. ???
It also has the 2mm jets fitted cost £17.04.
Apparently the reason they have the crinkle filloments is due to the Thermo setup they have (must help keep them in shape)
Wayne
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I tried it on my own windows today which are probably the cleanest windows around with all the practise I’ve done on them :)
I’ve never rinsed on with the Vikan for the reasons you mention NWH, but today for the first time I noticed a few spots. Weather this brush has lifted more soap from the seals I don’t know but will have another play tomorrow.
Wayne
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Wayne, please tell me where you bought it, I'm really interested, Luke
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The jets on that brush are to close together they need taking out and putting back in further apart,i cleaned my mums with it just to try and was sure that because there was no water at each side of the brush it was missing the edges,and sure enough it was it was missing the top left and right corner,the only way round it is to clean round the whole frame as the brush is quiet soft and i don`t do frames on all houses.It`s a good brush and re jetting it should solve the problem.
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Wayne does it screw straight on your pole without the need of an adapter.
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NWH, I do frames as standard will those jets affect me? Luke
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Luke
I bought it from a Window Cleaning Supplies Shop in Bolton.
Their www is down at the mo but here’s the address http://www.google.com/search?q=www.windowcleaningshop.co.uk
I was on the phone to Ionics but when they said there was a postal strike this weekend I decided to go and collect one. Probably cheaper after all no postage cost only a 15 mins there and back to the shop.
NWH
Haven't tried that. I tried it on an Ali gooseneck and on a plastic angle adapt.
Makes sense what you are saying, just looked at my spots and they are about two inches in from the frame. Nice one Sherlock :)
Wayne
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The only way to get over this is to go up and over the frame,i tried this method on another window and they came up perfect,obviously on leads with hardly any frame it dosen`t matter only really noticed it on PVC or thick framed window`s,i`m starting to select certain brushes for certain houses.
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I would normally clean all the frame aswel but only cleaned them on Monday so didn't realy bother with the frames today. Will have another play in morning.
NWH
Was you refering to Ionics own adaptor.
Wayne
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NWH I AM bit confused as to what Ionics are actually making
1.that guy took pictures of the NEW multipole from Ionics
2.You had one the same but with crinkle monofilaments and duff thread
3.I had one the same as you but with a Vikan thread
4.Pittmonkey has no Ionics logo but crinkle monofilaments
I think I might email Ionics and ask them what is going on! Luke
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I`m going to speak to them tomorrow,but i want them to put jets wider apart.
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are you going to explain all this confusion regarding there product? Luke
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I`ll speak to patrick,he seems to be the one who deals with most of the sales.
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report back, tell him to look at my pictures if he wants, Luke
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reporting back,over lol.
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roger that, Luke
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who the ell is Roger ? :)
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Jeff look at my previous post with loads of pictures, this is my new brush. I really like it, Luke
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=41141.0#msg326453
tell me what you think.
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Its a bit like their previous double trim copy of the Tucker, the crinkle bits are like the Hills Salmon hygenic range. Looks like a good stiff industrial brush and as its lighter thats good, hopefully doesnt spread in the sun. Very good pics.
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do you use any brushes made specifically for wfp Jeff? Luke
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Not any more, they are still too heavy.
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I'm not sure whats going on here with this new brush either. Just had a look at v8edds pics again and his brush doesn't look the same has the mine or your's Luke. I'll pop out after and take a couple of pic's.
Wayne
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Don't think this is the same brush v8edd is recommending. This is a new brush, came out of the box like this. I've cleaned three windows with it.
Wayne
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it doenst look like mine either, mine is more comapact ( as in bristles arent so sticky outy!!! ) luke
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I'm beginning to wonder if this is a new brush at all. On the box it came in it had someone's name on it, just wondering if it's been out and brought back.
I placed to head against a white background to emphasise the splay on the outer bristles.
A couple more pic's
Wayne
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where is the company you bought it off based? Luke
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Heres some comparisons
pittmonkeys
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41388.0;id=7184;image)
mine
(http://lh4.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/RrRd4bgm9sI/AAAAAAAAAQM/_Mn6emUfoaQ/IMG_2768.JPG?imgmax=512)
pittmonkeys
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41388.0;id=7185;image)
mine
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/RrRdi7gm9jI/AAAAAAAAAPE/WoDR6VwxT_Y/IMG_2756.JPG?imgmax=512)
now I may well be sad but I have counted the tufts of bristles, there are 40 on every single brush and 8 on the sides of mine and v8edds ( cant see pittmonkeys ).
Here are the different varitaions on the forum.
2.NHWs one with an incorrect thread inc ionics logo-off ebay
3.Mine with a a thread that works with ionics logo-off ebay
4.v8edds looks the same as mine but without crinkle monofilaments-from ionics
5.pittmonkeys same stock as mine exactly but more splaying outer bristles and crinkle monofilaments but no logo-from wc shop
I smell a fish!!!!, luke
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Cannot resist this, if it smells like a fish and it looks like a fish, then its probably a fish . ;D
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That sounds fishy to me Jeff,Luke mine is exactly the same as yours but mine didn`t have a circular thread i had to glue in an angle adapter like i told you to.
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my thread was fine, anyway did you phone ionics? luke
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I didn`t get back till late today,the end of a long working week.I would have been to late to order anything so i`ll try on monday.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that the brushes we have are the older P0583 Double Trim Brushes. I’ve bought old stock from the WC Shop and you guys bought from ebay seller who has maybe got his hands on a few.
Again, looking at v8edds brush pics his brush does look different than ours and he did say this was the New Brush. V8edd if you are looking what do you think?
Wayne
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but I think NWH said that he has used the old one and this is different, Luke