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Title: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: m.b.s. on August 07, 2007, 09:11:21 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 07, 2007, 09:46:20 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil is that good or bad
what is your water tds reading
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: m.b.s. on August 07, 2007, 09:47:47 pm
around 253 befor ro 8 after ro 0-01 after di
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: john tomkins on August 07, 2007, 09:57:00 pm
That's 200 ltr per day, don't seem bad, I get 400 ltr per day out of a 200 GPD set up
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 07, 2007, 10:01:16 pm
around 253 befor ro 8 after ro 0-01 after di
i produce 25litr in 4 mins using my di vessel, my tds is 36 ppm, think id go mad waiting 3 hours for 25litres,
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Clear Vision on August 07, 2007, 10:14:28 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

nowt wrong with that mate!

Same as me
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 07, 2007, 10:27:53 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

nowt wrong with that mate!

matthew, but??? you dont have to use an ro,
Same as me
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Clear Vision on August 07, 2007, 10:33:25 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

nowt wrong with that mate!
matthew, but??? you dont have to use an ro,
Same as me


Oh yes I do!

Far far cheaper than ressin.

Mike at cleatech worked it out I would go through 2 sacks of resin a year! :o

Thats over £120 per year.

I bought my ro for £79.99

Just changed the filters after 18 months for £20

Quids in already ;)
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 07, 2007, 10:39:21 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

I would get about 57 - 60 litres in the same amount of time - but mine is 300 gpd.  Looks like you're doing OK.
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 07, 2007, 10:46:03 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

nowt wrong with that mate!
matthew, but??? you dont have to use an ro,
Same as me


Oh yes I do!

Far far cheaper than ressin.

Mike at cleatech worked it out I would go through 2 sacks of resin a year! :o

Thats over £120 per year.

I bought my ro for £79.99

Just changed the filters after 18 months for £20

Quids in already ;)

so you run the ro along side with the resin then, that what your saying matthew
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: macmac on August 07, 2007, 10:57:58 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

nowt wrong with that mate!
matthew, but??? you dont have to use an ro,
Same as me


Oh yes I do!

Far far cheaper than ressin.

Mike at cleatech worked it out I would go through 2 sacks of resin a year! :o

Thats over £120 per year.

I bought my ro for £79.99

Just changed the filters after 18 months for £20

Quids in already ;)

Mathew
You have to be joking ??? you can't possibly neglect ALL the benefits of pure water on demand for the sake of less than a hundred quid per year :o

tony
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 07, 2007, 11:02:05 pm
my very thoughts,
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: NWH on August 07, 2007, 11:13:48 pm
25ltrs in 3 hours,are you joking.
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: macmac on August 07, 2007, 11:17:22 pm
25ltrs in 3 hours,are you joking.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Man, you'd only be able to work fridays, monday to thursday making pure water.

summat not reyt there.

tony
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: NWH on August 07, 2007, 11:30:36 pm
Hi Mac,in 3hrs my 500ltr tank would be overflowing big time.40x40 is the way to fill a static mega quick,i could go out in the morning having filled up 500ltrs from static and come back at lunchtime and re fill.
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: macmac on August 07, 2007, 11:35:02 pm
Hi Mac,in 3hrs my 500ltr tank would be overflowing big time.40x40 is the way to fill a static mega quick,i could go out in the morning having filled up 500ltrs from static and come back at lunchtime and re fill.

I fill my 400ltr in 15 mins straight from tap, mega water pressure here & DI only. :D
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 07, 2007, 11:52:36 pm
i have just produced 25 liters of pure water in 3 hours using a 100 gpd ro and di vesil  is that good or bad

nowt wrong with that mate!
matthew, but??? you dont have to use an ro,
Same as me


Oh yes I do!

Far far cheaper than ressin.

Mike at cleatech worked it out I would go through 2 sacks of resin a year! :o

Thats over £120 per year.

I bought my ro for £79.99

Just changed the filters after 18 months for £20

Quids in already ;)
sorry matthew, i am not having a dig at you,  you know me better than that m8,   i am just surprised at seeing you use an ro,
it just seems to me a waste of time, for a few quide, matthew your water is 20 tds am sure,     dont think it can be beaten on this forum, have you calulated it, and is it saving you money,    i have an open mind,   so i am listening very seriously, 
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: macmac on August 08, 2007, 12:14:34 am
The other point joe is that the method for working out how much pure water an amount of resin will make is missleading, as using 2 DI units in sequence & shaking the vessels when tds rises more than doubles it's usable life. this is certainly the case with dowex resin. It's unreal how long dowex will hold a low tds reading for. I have one 11ltr vessel that hit 001 tds about 6-7 weeks ago & (with shaking) is still only reading 005 & is pre-filtering the new vessel.

tony
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: jouk45 on August 08, 2007, 12:27:32 am
The other point joe is that the method for working out how much pure water an amount of resin will make is missleading, as using 2 DI units in sequence & shaking the vessels when tds rises more than doubles it's usable life. this is certainly the case with dowex resin. It's unreal how long dowex will hold a low tds reading for. I have one 11ltr vessel that hit 001 tds about 6-7 weeks ago & (with shaking) is still only reading 005 & is pre-filtering the new vessel.

tony
at this moment i am trying out dougs, daseservices,  method. of saving on resin,  http://www.w.com/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3614#3614      so will let you know how i get on,
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Clear Vision on August 08, 2007, 08:12:32 am
Guys o guys o guys!

I dont run resin along side my ro. Just ro on its own.

The reason I dont want to use resin is because I use a backpack............

My tank in the van is full with 000ppm water and I have a submersible pump in it to fill up my backpack in seconds!!!!

If i was to fill the van tank with tap water and di it as I use it, I would have to use my shurflo pump to fill it and that would take ages!!!!!!! (I've done it >:( ;D)

I also like to be on a job without having to worry about resin rising. I always know I have 000ppm water with me.

I know ro is slower to produce but for me its easier.

I hope you can see MY point for filtering my water that way?

 ;)

P.S joe, i'll sort you out when you come up this way!! ;D
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: d s windowcleaning on August 08, 2007, 11:04:48 am
seems a bit slow to me 25ltrs over 3 hours aint alot at the moment im using a 200gpd ro unit with di it takes around 20 minutes to do 25 ltrs i allso have a booster pump so im getting constant pressure
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 08, 2007, 01:54:58 pm
Quote
The reason I dont want to use resin is because I use a backpack............

My tank in the van is full with 000ppm water and I have a submersible pump in it to fill up my backpack in seconds!!!!

If i was to fill the van tank with tap water and di it as I use it, I would have to use my shurflo pump to fill it and that would take ages!!!!!!! (I've done it  )

Clear Vision, my setup will be one person on a van mount, another on a backpack, I will be purifying onboard ( 2x di vessels  ). I could purify at home instead ( 34 tds ). So how do you fill your backpack up that fast from a tank of 000 ppm ? Luke
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Peter Fogwill on August 08, 2007, 02:58:51 pm
25L in 3 hours is about half the amount you could be getting from the system.

It is all about water pressure, if you can get the pressure up you will produce water faster, the TDS in the water will be lower, and you will have less waste.
You could check to make sure all the mains pipe taps are fully opened, the ones that supply your feed tap.  Failing that a booster pump is an option.

If you are happy with the amount you produce, in the time it takes to produce it, then carry on the way you are.  If in the future you need more water, or water faster, then add a booster.

Peter
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Clear Vision on August 08, 2007, 08:27:53 pm
Quote
The reason I dont want to use resin is because I use a backpack............

My tank in the van is full with 000ppm water and I have a submersible pump in it to fill up my backpack in seconds!!!!

If i was to fill the van tank with tap water and di it as I use it, I would have to use my shurflo pump to fill it and that would take ages!!!!!!! (I've done it  )

Clear Vision, my setup will be one person on a van mount, another on a backpack, I will be purifying onboard ( 2x di vessels  ). I could purify at home instead ( 34 tds ). So how do you fill your backpack up that fast from a tank of 000 ppm ? Luke

12v submersible pump with a 1" outlet and about 2m of 1" hose coming from it.

15-20 secs max to fill it.

Your tds is 34?

Same as me  ;D
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: m.b.s. on August 08, 2007, 08:36:24 pm
i thought about a booster pump but the thing is when i got the ro it came with a barbe inlet that connects to the garden hose i now no that a lot of ro systems come with thin 1/4 pipe to connect to a tap is there any thing i can doo to change it from been a garden hose inlet to a 1/4 pipe fitting and how do i connect it to a garden tap
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: m.b.s. on August 08, 2007, 09:10:14 pm
anyone help
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Peter Fogwill on August 08, 2007, 11:04:13 pm
i thought about a booster pump but the thing is when i got the ro it came with a barbe inlet that connects to the garden hose i now no that a lot of ro systems come with thin 1/4 pipe to connect to a tap is there any thing i can doo to change it from been a garden hose inlet to a 1/4 pipe fitting and how do i connect it to a garden tap


Does your system have a 1/4 pipe?  If so there is connectors that screw onto a garden tap and have a quick connect connector to take the 1/4 pipe.

Peter
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 09, 2007, 07:51:35 pm
Clear Vision, i have heard of people using just some sort of tank outlet or something ( I think ) without the need of a pump, and filling the backpack up in a few seconds from there van tank, Luke
Title: Re: is 25 liters good or bad
Post by: Clear Vision on August 09, 2007, 09:53:07 pm
Clear Vision, i have heard of people using just some sort of tank outlet or something ( I think ) without the need of a pump, and filling the backpack up in a few seconds from there van tank, Luke

Maybe,

But.........

It would have to be a big outlet and the backpack would have to be lower than the water level when filling up. You would prob have to sit it on the road.