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Title: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 02:13:47 pm
I did a builders clean today on a building site and noticed several scratches and bad stains on the window sills,  ::)

I didn't notice them under all the dust and dirt, so I reported it to the site agent straight away, he came along and had a look,.... said no problem, we have the plastic Doctor on site???  ??? (one of those upvc repair specialists) he phoned the guy, who was with me in less than five minutes. ;D

Being interested, I asked him how he was going to remove these scratches, watch and learn, watch and learn he said.

He asked me for some soapy water, so I obliged, with this he produced some wet and Dry sandpaper (2000 grade) dipped it into the water and began to rub along the  Length of the sill, within minutes all the scatches has dissapeared? and the sill was like new.

You must use 2000 grade with soapy water, and only rub in one direction and that is in the direction of the scratch.

Just a little tip I thought I would pass on in case anyone gets complaints about scratched sills caused by your brush.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: Roy Harding on August 01, 2007, 02:23:56 pm
Nice one Jeff tips like that may be worth there weight in gold to someone.

Roy
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 02:28:42 pm
Nice one Jeff tips like that may be worth there weight in gold to someone.

Roy
The Doctor made me laugh really, he did one sill, showed me how to do it, gave me a sheet of wet 'n' dry and said if there's any more, you can do them your self :o
It is so easy and does an excellent Job for scratches and stains.
If I can do it anyone can ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: KarlJones on August 01, 2007, 02:51:55 pm
a little note.

I used to work as a window fabricator and some of you may have noticed scratches on the joins of bay window sills.  They do not look like that when they leave the factory, it takes a year or so for the dust and grime to work its way into the little scratches.

Just pointing this out so you realise that it is not a do once and forget job.  You may have to do them over once a year or so to stop the scratches your making from showing.  Though of course with clean frames and glass these scratches might not build up so fast.

This is certainly a tip I will be using, thanks for the details.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: Alex Wingrove on August 01, 2007, 03:45:23 pm
did he rub up and down, or just up, or down,

Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 03:52:38 pm
did he rub up and down, or just up, or down,


Up and down in the direction of the scratch.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: Alex Wingrove on August 01, 2007, 04:17:41 pm
thats good

you can also use diamond paste, about 3.50 per pot should be green, contains very small dimonds to rub the affected area away
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: pjulk on August 01, 2007, 04:19:34 pm
Great tip jeff one that will come in handy for us all.

Paul
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 07:12:38 pm
I have a small out-side loo, the frame has been discoloured for years?(yellow)  It didn't matter if I damaged this frame, but I thought I would give it a go with the wet'n'dry.

The frame now looks like new again ;D apart from one corner were my German shepard decided as a puppy, it would make a nice teething chew :o  so this method also works on discoloured frames. ;D
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: Clive McDonald on August 01, 2007, 08:15:27 pm
Thanks Jeff, another banker.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 08:35:11 pm
Thanks Jeff, another banker.
Your most welcome. ;)
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: matt on August 01, 2007, 08:40:17 pm
i hate to be the bringer of bad news

ive done a very similar course to what the "plastic Doctor" should have been on

the only downside to this is it takes the top of the PVCu and it will discolour really really quickly

its not a ideal practise to do that, but the do it for the builders as they will be well gone be the time it happens and then they will blame the window makers
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 09:04:17 pm
i hate to be the bringer of bad news

ive done a very similar course to what the "plastic Doctor" should have been on

the only downside to this is it takes the top of the PVCu and it will discolour really really quickly

its not a ideal practise to do that, but the do it for the builders as they will be well gone be the time it happens and then they will blame the window makers
I have done the whole of my outside loo sill, so I'll keep my eye on it, why not add a little polish to it then??
I won't add any polish to mine, so I can see how long it takes to discolour?
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: matt on August 01, 2007, 10:43:57 pm
the newer expensive PVCu profiles ( sections to you and me ) will be better than the older / cheaper type, as the older / cheaper type are made from recycled PVCu and just coated in a plastic covering

its to do with the suns rays, they discolour ( in the old days it went yellow ) the PVCu

anyways, enough of the boring PVCu talk, i didnt really like the course as it wasnt that good, they had nice free "suchard white hot chocolate " in the free vend machine :)
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on August 01, 2007, 10:56:16 pm
the newer expensive PVCu profiles ( sections to you and me ) will be better than the older / cheaper type, as the older / cheaper type are made from recycled PVCu and just coated in a plastic covering

its to do with the suns rays, they discolour ( in the old days it went yellow ) the PVCu

anyways, enough of the boring PVCu talk, i didnt really like the course as it wasnt that good, they had nice free "suchard white hot chocolate " in the free vend machine :)
;D ;D expensive course for a cup of hot chocky Matt?
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: matt on August 01, 2007, 11:13:14 pm
the newer expensive PVCu profiles ( sections to you and me ) will be better than the older / cheaper type, as the older / cheaper type are made from recycled PVCu and just coated in a plastic covering

its to do with the suns rays, they discolour ( in the old days it went yellow ) the PVCu

anyways, enough of the boring PVCu talk, i didnt really like the course as it wasnt that good, they had nice free "suchard white hot chocolate " in the free vend machine :)
;D ;D expensive course for a cup of hot chocky Matt?

it was a 1 week course mate and paid for by the local tax payers ( i worked for the local council ), was just 1 of the many jollies i was lucky enough to have been on ;)

it was a very nice cuppa thoug ;)
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: S.A.J on March 17, 2008, 04:57:43 pm
i hate to be the bringer of bad news

ive done a very similar course to what the "plastic Doctor" should have been on

the only downside to this is it takes the top of the PVCu and it will discolour really really quickly

its not a ideal practise to do that, but the do it for the builders as they will be well gone be the time it happens and then they will blame the window makers
I have done the whole of my outside loo sill, so I'll keep my eye on it, why not add a little polish to it then??
I won't add any polish to mine, so I can see how long it takes to discolour?

jeff hows that sill looking??

Stuart  ;)
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on March 17, 2008, 08:14:28 pm
Stuart, I walk past it most days and never take any notice Lol

I used to notice it when it was bad, but its looking good still, now just a quick wipe when the window get washed and its still come's up good.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: S.A.J on March 17, 2008, 09:32:05 pm
Cheers Jeff, just ordered myself some wet/dry paper. Hope its the right stuff!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WET-AND-DRY-SANDPAPER-SAND-PAPER-2000-2500-GRADES_W0QQitemZ220212823103QQihZ012QQcategoryZ30923QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: james44 on March 17, 2008, 09:37:37 pm
This also works on baths, think a member on this forum posted it sometime ago, can`t remember who it was

I have tried it and it does work
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: ps outthere on March 17, 2008, 09:54:02 pm
Thanks for the tip. I have bought some 2000 grade from the link posted above.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on March 17, 2008, 11:52:40 pm
Cheers Jeff, just ordered myself some wet/dry paper. Hope its the right stuff!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WET-AND-DRY-SANDPAPER-SAND-PAPER-2000-2500-GRADES_W0QQitemZ220212823103QQihZ012QQcategoryZ30923QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thats the stuff Buddie  ;)
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: pjulk on March 19, 2008, 04:02:39 pm
Hi Jeff

I bought the 2000 grade wet and dry did my kitchen sill and i can't believe how smooth it feels now and removed a few old stains.

I have a few scratches that where a bit deep for the 2000 grade W&D have you tried anything courser and then gone over with the 2000 grade to get rid of deeper scratches.

Thought i would ask first before i wreck my sill.


Paul
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on March 19, 2008, 09:31:58 pm
Hi Jeff

I bought the 2000 grade wet and dry did my kitchen sill and i can't believe how smooth it feels now and removed a few old stains.

I have a few scratches that where a bit deep for the 2000 grade W&D have you tried anything courser and then gone over with the 2000 grade to get rid of deeper scratches.

Thought i would ask first before i wreck my sill.


Paul
Hi Paul
My old loo sill was pretty bad, the corner had gone, were my German shepherd decided to have it for lunch one day when she was a puppy, its going up a set of steps so was easy fro her to sit there and munch away at the corner. ::)

There were some deep scratches on there that 2000 wouldn't shift, I couldn't be bothered to go out and buy any courser, but in my shed I had a white paint stick for doing scratches on the car, I filled the scratch with this and waited for it to dry, again using the 2000 I redid the sill,

If the colour was a perfect match, this would have been a first class Job, scratches gone and like you say nice and smooth, I use this sill as my test base now, so I'll get some courser over the weekend and give it a try and let you know.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: pjulk on March 19, 2008, 10:14:54 pm
Thanks jeff.

I didn't want to try it as my sill is not that bad.

But im glad i got the 2000 now going to get some more to stock pile for when i do conservatory cleans.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: jeff1 on March 19, 2008, 10:21:15 pm
Thanks jeff.

I didn't want to try it as my sill is not that bad.

But im glad i got the 2000 now going to get some more to stock pile for when i do conservatory cleans.
Little tip for you Paul, any custy's with bad sills, or frames, ask them if they want them restored and charged well for it.  ;)
Its also good for getting rid of the little sucker marks left by that creeping Ivy.
Stick a little car polish on afterwards for a little more protection.
Title: Re: A Little Tip for upvc Repairs
Post by: pjulk on March 19, 2008, 10:47:41 pm
This is something that im going to add to my service's.

Im going to put it on the back of my bills.

Those creeping ivy marks are a pain i will be looking out for them now  ;D

Thankyou