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Title: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: Easyclean Windows on July 24, 2007, 03:18:25 pm
Hi guys i wonder if you maybe able to help me.

I have a customer who i clean windows for at a pub and he has been flooded.
He has been told that to be able to reopen he needs to sanitise the cellar and then needs a "certificate" so say it has been done...

What i would like to know if possible for me to relate to my customer as we are both unsure what they mean by this ... what or where a certificate comes from?

thanks

Steve
Easyclean Windows
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: Liahona on July 24, 2007, 03:51:53 pm
I dont know about this country but in the states there is no such certificate.  No one in their right mind would give you a certificate as they would then take the responsibility for what they are claiming for.  In general the word sanatise isn't used in the states in our field of cleaning.  Best, Dave.
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: jasonl on July 24, 2007, 04:30:21 pm
My advice would be to never to certify any area has been sanitized , I am inclined to write ,
 
Apply sanitizer to .... area.

Note, "apply" not "sanitize"
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: Liahona on July 24, 2007, 04:36:31 pm
Jason, good advice.  You rushed off your feet?  Best, Dave.
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: carpetguy on July 24, 2007, 05:27:48 pm
Sanitised just means "cleaned " and I can't imagine there being any such certification, however, a call to your local authorities environmental health department will clarify,

rob

Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: Ken Wainwright on July 24, 2007, 06:31:08 pm
You could always certify that you have applied product XYZ as per manufacturers instruction. This isn't uncommon when applying flame retardents. You could also then supply a Safety Data Sheet too.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: calmore on July 24, 2007, 06:46:23 pm
I agree with the above!

Certify that you have applied the product as per the directions. Probably also useful to note down on the certificate the batch number of the products used (Looks professsional).

Personally I wouldn't certify that it's been actually sanitized as yoou could have comeback should it go mouldy at a later date.
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: John Kelly on July 24, 2007, 07:08:18 pm
We do lots of pub cellars. You can only issue a sanitisation certificate via a third party. This third part will be a hygiene company who will take swaps at pre-determined ratios in order to test for organisms. They will then issue the certificate. This again will have caveats saying that testing was carried out at prescribed levels etc, etc.
Most of the time whoever is paying don't want the additional cost of this extra work.
What we do then is issue a statement that the premises have been cleaned and a product, we usually use Prochem Microsan, has been applied to all affected surfaces. Again you need to ad a caveat, something like "no testing has been provided or carried out".
This is usually adequate for the environmental health to allow the premises to re-open. In fact we have just done this on a flooded takeaway.
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: Easyclean Windows on July 24, 2007, 08:07:47 pm
Well thanks for all your valuable information i will pass this on to the relevant people.

Much appreciated

Steve
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: John Kelly on July 24, 2007, 08:23:00 pm
I should maybe add that all bottled beer which has been affected should be disposed of. It is impossible to adequately clean it, especially with people drinking out of bottles. It is possible they could become ill, with Weil's disease from Rats urine being especially dangerous even leading to fatalities.
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000444/
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: calmore on July 25, 2007, 07:44:34 pm
I'll also add that I can provide a beer disposal service should anyone come across any they want to get rid of!

 ;D
Title: Re: CERTIFICATE ATFER SANITISATION?
Post by: gwrightson on July 25, 2007, 07:58:10 pm
what about a drying certificate?

i was asked  if i could let them have the moisture content after drying,

listed  parts of bulding ,  ie. brick, plaster, flooring, concrete  and took a reading which was placed accordingly ,
when the drying is complete I shall show the readings again  .
this was adequate enough for them.

Geoff

ps forgot to add idealy different meters should be used for wood, plaster    and concrete     so I am led to believe!!