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Title: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 08:09:42 pm
Hi guys, I've been asked to price quite a large job and to be honest have no idea where to start... I'm reckoning it'll take a couple of days, but does anyone have any advice? I've attached some pictures... hopefully....

I lost count but I know theres 230+ windows, split over 4 floors.

I don't know if anyone else on here is tendering for the same contract, so I'll keep it quiet what I decide, but any pointers would be great. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 08:10:16 pm
More...
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 08:11:00 pm
.....and some more....
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 08:11:35 pm
last couple!
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: JohnL on July 20, 2007, 08:26:48 pm
From previous experience for this type of request it would help if we knew what part of the country you are in.

A sly dig at filling in your personal details on location    ;)
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 08:41:40 pm
Ahhh yes, my mistake! I'm in North Wales. Will update my location in a mo! :)
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: JohnL on July 20, 2007, 08:42:08 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: poles apart on July 20, 2007, 08:42:18 pm
Are you doing the insides as well?, if not then it won't take a couple of days, more like half a day with wfp :)
Rod
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 08:47:37 pm
No just the outsides. Half a day?? Really?? I know the previous people took about 16 man hours. It will be just me doing them....
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: Paul Coleman on July 20, 2007, 08:51:12 pm
Ahhh yes, my mistake! I'm in North Wales. Will update my location in a mo! :)

In that case a fiver.
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: JohnL on July 20, 2007, 08:52:45 pm
Access looks good, if its a wfp job and running into 2 days to do a proper job - possibly £200 ish according to local prices, competition and if you want it!

half a day - thats a laugh!   :)
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: MJH on July 20, 2007, 09:17:38 pm
Depending on how much you want the job(it looks like a nice straight forward one!!) i would say £280-£300 and yes just over 2 days to get them perfect!
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: aztec on July 20, 2007, 09:19:06 pm
one day one man £175.00 easy job
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: Clear Vision on July 20, 2007, 09:47:09 pm
Half a day = Half a job!     

full day or more = job well done!

Do you have to clean the windows set back in the roof?

How would you reach them?

Whats the longest pole you have?
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: archercleaningserv on July 20, 2007, 10:01:28 pm
I have looked at some of your replys to the length of time it would take to clean the windows on this job , and i am seriously taken aback at the thought of cleaning all windows in the pictures in half-a-day ??

The only person i could imagine cleaning within that time would be "BENNY HILL".

If i was quoting i would say 2 days to do a proper job , & i would price it at £350 ,may not get the job looking at some of your other replys as to quote , but it doesnt mean to say the cheapest price would get the job.

I would however say if i did get it, they would get a very good window cleaner & get a very good job done if i won the contract.

You price it at what you think you "believe" is the correct price , basically only you know how good you are !

chris.
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 10:40:15 pm
Ahhh yes, my mistake! I'm in North Wales. Will update my location in a mo! :)

In that case a fiver.

LOL.... that much?! Tis a bit ambitious round these parts! Although I AM the only window cleaner in the village :P


Do you have to clean the windows set back in the roof?

How would you reach them?

Whats the longest pole you have?


You mean the dormers, or the velux windows? I'm not asked to do the velux, but I am the dormers. My pole is 18 ft at the moment.... but if I were to get the job I'd probably invest in a new one. You think a 35 footer would do the trick?
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: poles apart on July 20, 2007, 10:45:03 pm
I'm astounded by the reaction to my estimate of half a day to clean these windows! What are you guys on!! There are only 230+ windows. How long do you want to spend!! I do a site with over 450 windows and it takes two of us about 4 - 5 hours and yes it's a good job as I've been doing it for 7 years without complaint. You people need to get real :o (apart from aztec)
Rod
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: NWH on July 20, 2007, 10:55:20 pm
Half a day,in your dreams wearing a blue suit with a big S on your chest.Without seeing it it`s hard to say but i would quote in the region of 850-£1000,i`ve got a job that`s similar and they want it done just twice a year.
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: Chris Cottrell on July 20, 2007, 10:57:43 pm
Ahhh yes, my mistake! I'm in North Wales. Will update my location in a mo! :)

In that case a fiver.

LOL.... that much?! Tis a bit ambitious round these parts! Although I AM the only window cleaner in the village :P


Do you have to clean the windows set back in the roof?

How would you reach them?

Whats the longest pole you have?


You mean the dormers, or the velux windows? I'm not asked to do the velux, but I am the dormers. My pole is 18 ft at the moment.... but if I were to get the job I'd probably invest in a new one. You think a 35 footer would do the trick?


35 ' pole will defo NOT be enough for that I would go with at least a 45' pole maybe with an extra extention section just in case, check the gallery on my website the big pic is a 40' and not really big enough!

Chris
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 20, 2007, 11:34:35 pm

35 ' pole will defo NOT be enough for that I would go with at least a 45' pole maybe with an extra extention section just in case, check the gallery on my website the big pic is a 40' and not really big enough!

Chris

You mean the 3 storey place with the big chimneys? Is that a 40 footer? Looks like its only just high enough....

Half a day,in your dreams wearing a blue suit with a big S on your chest.Without seeing it it`s hard to say but i would quote in the region of 850-£1000,i`ve got a job that`s similar and they want it done just twice a year.

Whereabouts are you based NWH?
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: NWH on July 20, 2007, 11:43:53 pm
South East.
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: gary evans on July 21, 2007, 06:59:58 am
Nice Job.

I would do it £300, have 2 man team on it one day. Easy after first clean, you,d be able to tie extra work.

Around 6 Hours total + average 650 to 700 litres would be enough after first clean.

We do mainly commercial & buildings this size daily, & theres always somebody cheaper, we gain 1 in 3 that we tender for, one company i know would do it at £150 to £175 max by us, but leave most & mess the job up.

This would be a good portfolio building for future expansion.

Gary
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: Chris Cottrell on July 21, 2007, 07:48:30 am

35 ' pole will defo NOT be enough for that I would go with at least a 45' pole maybe with an extra extention section just in case, check the gallery on my website the big pic is a 40' and not really big enough!

Chris

You mean the 3 storey place with the big chimneys? Is that a 40 footer? Looks like its only just high enough..

Yes that the one , That was a gardiners 38' pole which was replaced with a F16 carbon pole @ 42' which is just the right size
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: steve k on July 21, 2007, 08:08:28 am
that is a 1 man, 1 day job and I would quote £400 if it was anything other than 4 weekly. 4 weekly would be £300.

£800-£1000... ;D Don`t waste your paper sending in a quote.
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: poles apart on July 21, 2007, 09:18:26 am
Nice Job.

I would do it £300, have 2 man team on it one day. Easy after first clean, you,d be able to tie extra work.

Around 6 Hours total + average 650 to 700 litres would be enough after first clean.

We do mainly commercial & buildings this size daily, & theres always somebody cheaper, we gain 1 in 3 that we tender for, one company i know would do it at £150 to £175 max by us, but leave most & mess the job up.

This would be a good portfolio building for future expansion.

Gary

Quite right. I assumed he was not on his own when I said half a day, but you're spot on with the time and water usage. I'm glad someone has got some sense on here!
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: gary evans on July 21, 2007, 10:39:00 am
Poles apart, i feel the same sometimes, some prices are so exagerated. Some people will be misled. It would be nice to £400 + for this sort of job , but you wont.

In my workings out i allowed a little extra time for the difficulties of the windows etc, but in whole this would be a good job around £300.

Gary
Title: Re: Help with pricing a job...
Post by: chrismroberts on July 21, 2007, 04:17:40 pm
Thanks for all the tips. I think it is going to take me 2 days, so I'll probably price accordingly.

Nice Job.

I would do it £300, have 2 man team on it one day. Easy after first clean, you,d be able to tie extra work.

Around 6 Hours total + average 650 to 700 litres would be enough after first clean.

We do mainly commercial & buildings this size daily, & theres always somebody cheaper, we gain 1 in 3 that we tender for, one company i know would do it at £150 to £175 max by us, but leave most & mess the job up.

This would be a good portfolio building for future expansion.

Gary

It would be good for future expansion, yeh. The company asking me to do it is a large management company so it might be useful to get on their books!