Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jouk45 on July 19, 2007, 09:44:00 pm
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Hi Guy's & Gals
Just need a little input from the pro's.
If I told you I had invented and built a protor type pole that does not have and does not need a hose or tubing? it has a built in flow control and has the facilities for a portable water function,
Now if you have difficult access restrictions, were you have trouble getting your hose or even a backpack to the rear of a property, then this pole is the answer, if you have to go through customers homes with hoses or backpacks along with your poles, then again this pole is the answer, you can work on these propertys with ease with no trailing hoses at your feet, but pure water is still being pumped upto the windows?
Its in its early stages at the moment, and I have made a video of the pole in action, but I am unable to show it at the moment.
I have shown only one other member who has signed an agreement not to mention anything he has seen on the video.
I have put the pole through its paces on several occations and I must admit my self, it is very good at doing a professional Job.
It does feel strange at first going through a house with only a pole and no hose and doing the windows at the back of the house to a high standard that we and the customers are used to.
I don't want spend shed loads of money on a product that wont be wanted, if you guy's think it will be worth my effort in the continuation of a hoseless pole, tell me guy's what do you think to the idea???
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So what you're saying is it doesn't need a water supply?...or has it got it's own?
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when you say want it, do you mean do i want it for free?
in that case YES!
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when you say want it, do you mean do i want it for free?
in that case YES!
Then tell him why you would want a pole like this???
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because its free
ill take any pole for free, (wfp)
where does the water come from?
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because its free
ill take any pole for free, (wfp)
where does the water come from?
Were does it say its free ??
Jouk45 is asking for input on a new pole and asking if anyone would want such a pole.
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If its at the right price
If it cleans better than what i use now
If its light weight
If its compact
YES
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I know what Joe. You post a confidentilaity agreement that we all post our names underneath so that we are bound by it, and then you post a link to the video.
You description sounds great.No hose etc.
Whatever your basic idea it sounds like it has mileage. It's possible that you will need the big boys to develop it though.
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because its free
ill take any pole for free, (wfp)
where does the water come from?
Were does it say its free ??
Jouk45 is asking for input on a new pole and asking if anyone would want such a pole.
he said do you want it i said yes
when someone says to me, do you "want" a sweet, i say yes
i want the pole
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same here, count me in. I'll sign anything
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jouk if this pole does what your saying and eliminates the problems that that youve
put in your post then asuming its not a wind up im surprised you even have to
ask. OF COURSE ID WANT ONE. ;)
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So what you're saying is it doesn't need a water supply?...or has it got it's own?
the telescopic pole works, like any wfp, except it has no tubing, the flow control switch can be fitted permanently any where on the pole, the only hose that connects to the pole is from the pump end, meaning no excess tubing lying around your feet or flapping outside hoses ect, an additional function that comes with the pole can be connected or disconected at will, this allows you to use water anywhere, without restrictions, also it has an automatic refill funtion, sorry alex i should have said who would want to buy this pole,
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jouk if this pole does what your saying and eliminates the problems that that youve
put in your post then asuming its not a wind up im surprised you even have to
ask. OF COURSE ID WANT ONE. ;)
I have seen the video and it is not a wind up, I was very impressed with what I seen on the video, and I can understand why Joe can't show it yet, its still in its protor type stage, the discription he gives is accurate, I seen no hoses, or no pipes, but I could see the water jetting out and I had a full view of the pole and the job he was doing.
I already have my name down for one. ;)
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jouk if this pole does what your saying and eliminates the problems that that youve
put in your post then asuming its not a wind up im surprised you even have to
ask. OF COURSE ID WANT ONE. ;)
not a wind up, i promise, i have been using it now for the past 4 days, and it has not given me any trouble,
as i said its a make up prototype, and can be made even better,
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ill sign let me have a look
to be honest i have no one to tell, except maybe my dad
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jouk i never thought for a second it was free.
count me in my :-X
steve.
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Is the pole similar to a 'Unger's Carbon Tec' Pole as that is similar to what you're describing with a built in flow control and no hoses runing external of the pole or trailing by your feet?
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jouk i never thought for a second it was free.
count me in my :-X
steve.
would you like him to pat your belly now........theres a good boy,
lol only joking i was "trying" to be funny, gets lost sometimes
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sounds good jo
my mind baffles how it would work, but im open to be proved wrong :P
how many windows can you do with it in one sweep?
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The only way I can see it working is if the base section had VERY small water tank, battery and pump built in? :-[
If that was the case I would imagine it could be quite heavy and only capable of cleaning a couple of window rather than a whole house?
Could be wrong though!
Anyway, well done joe. Nice to see people inventing and building things!
Cant wait to see it.
Matthew
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alex be careful who you take sweet's from mate, they might wanna rub your belly!
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The only way I can see it working is if the base section had VERY small water tank, battery and pump built in? :-[
If that was the case I would imagine it could be quite heavy and only capable of cleaning a couple of window rather than a whole house?
Could be wrong though!
Anyway, well done joe. Nice to see people inventing and building things!
Cant wait to see it.
Matthew
Matt, I can't answer to many posts for Joe, incase I drop a goolie, but I can tell you it has no battery or pump built into it.
and I susspect its capable of cleaning the average 3 bed house (but don't quote me on it, it could be more or it could be less)
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So we are talking about a water filled pole for the odd difficult access windows (say a middle terrace) that holds just enough to clean the back of a small house and pumps itself somehow - probably manually like a sprayer backpack that would be easily refillable with no trailing hose etc. So presumably it reaches two stories?
If it was reasonably priced I would have one but I'm not sure it would hold enough water. For me it probably wouldn't get used very often but would be very handy at times.
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Is the pole similar to a 'Unger's Carbon Tec' Pole as that is similar to what you're describing with a built in flow control and no hoses runing external of the pole or trailing by your feet?
yes it works similar to the carbon tec, except mines is fully telescopic, so no messing around with loads of pole sections,
also no trailing hoses around your feet, and becouse of the way its designed, the flow control switch can be incorporated
anywhere in the pole base,
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I'd be interested,
Ant
TVCS
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So we are talking about a water filled pole for the odd difficult access windows (say a middle terrace) that holds just enough to clean the back of a small house and pumps itself somehow - probably manually like a sprayer backpack that would be easily refillable with no trailing hose etc. So presumably it reaches two stories?
If it was reasonably priced I would have one but I'm not sure it would hold enough water. For me it probably wouldn't get used very often but would be very handy at times.
the pole itself is not filled with water, the pole will funtion like a wfp should, only diffrence will be no hoses, plus a built in flow controler, i have clean 4 average windows 4x4 no problem,
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im seem to rember joe getting all excited about this idea two years ago and asking peoples opinions nothing came out of that i think this is just another wind up otherwise why would he be on here giving people the chance to steal his "invention".
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im seem to rember joe getting all excited about this idea two years ago and asking peoples opinions nothing came out of that i think this is just another wind up otherwise why would he be on here giving people the chance to steal his "invention".
Its not a wind up, this is why he is asking for your input, if no one replied to his topic then he knew it would be a waste of time pushing on with his invention.
I have emailed Joe and asked him nicely if he could just even show a little clip of the video.
I await his reply??
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im seem to rember joe getting all excited about this idea two years ago and asking peoples opinions nothing came out of that i think this is just another wind up otherwise why would he be on here giving people the chance to steal his "invention".
ok i will get my young lad to take a video of it, i will only show the pole itself working, not the portable
water part, some time tonight, i am not afraid to show my invention, as the workings are all internal,
so basicly is not in the public domains eyes to see, the video will be put onto the wfp training academy
first,
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Do not show the pole under any circumstances Joe.
It's a brilliant concept, and almost unbelievable unless you've actually seen it, but do not on any account be tempted or goaded into showing it.
There's a few you can trust to keep their gob's shut, keep it that way ;)
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If you're using portable water which doesn't require a pump or battery then you must be storing the water in a small pressurised accumulator or expansion tank, probably 8 to 24litres, am I correct about the method of water storage?
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Do not show the pole under any circumstances Joe.
It's a brilliant concept, and almost unbelievable unless you've actually seen it, but do not on any account be tempted or goaded into showing it.
There's a few you can trust to keep their gob's shut, keep it that way ;)
its ok, no one can see the internal of the pole anyway, it looks and functions like any other wfp, except the hose and flow controler problem has been solved, i am puting the video on show at around 9pm,