Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Count Phil on July 06, 2007, 04:39:58 pm
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Hi, I'm a traditional window cleaner and wish to get up-to-date with the latest technology. I do a good job with my leathers and cloths, but these fellows with squeegees seem to rush around much faster than me.
I've a few questions before I take the risk of going 'squeegee and applicator'.
1. Does it really do as good a job?
2. On leaded, don't you use traditional methods anyway?
3. What's the best make of squeegee (I'm worried about leaving streaks) and
4. Would it be possible to DIY? I was thinking of a T shape peice of wood I could knock up in the shed and wrap a bit of rag around for an applicator, would this work?
Any help would be usefull, I'm hoping to earn more than 50 quid a day. I heard some guys with squeegees earn around a hundred, is this possible.
Oh, and are the running costs reasonable or do they offset some of the profit??
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good job your joking
1 no it doesnt, go wfp
2 no i just use wfp
3 there are no good makes go wfp
4 yeh woods fine, just get a tea towel and wrap it around it
youll be hard pushed to earn £50 mate, but fingers crossed
lol lol lol ;D
well...i hope your joking anyway
oh and running costs are ridiculous with them things
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I love the Friday wind-ups...puts me in a good mood for the weekend ;D
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good job your joking
That's the problem with this forum, if you don't know how to use a squeegee, nobody takes you seriously?
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you were being serious?
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I had some old bloke the other month when I was quoting, he said "do you use them new fangled things ( then he did a swivel motion with his hands ) " I said, "you mean a squeegee". He was so behind the times he thought the squeegee was a new invention, I dread to think what would happen if you turned up with a wfp!!!
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LWC couldn't trad to save his life,that's why he uses water on a stick. You only have to push up and down no skill needed at all. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm trad ( going pole ) and theres no skill to that either, you just clean the frame and clean the glass, infact I believe there is more skill in wfp
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I don't reckon.
Being good with a squeegee is an art.
Being good with a brush is a road sweeper.
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Jeff Brimble has wfp down to a fine art, he uses less water than some trad people
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He'll now be known as "Spotty" Brimble. ;D
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Do you actually model yourself on Victor Meldrew?
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Luke are you another LWC then ??? LOL ;) ;)
I also use WFP Luke but prefer Trad, WFP is a tool and a tool only.
Regards :) :)
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On some windows you can use less water,but there few and far between.When the glass is being cleaned WFP the water is acting as a squeegee when you rinse,i find adequate water is needed to do a top job.
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Do you actually model yourself on Victor Meldrew?
Does Victor Meldrew grin and crack jokes? ???
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Squeaky i don`t believe it!
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REPLY TO ASBOSS
What part of "I'm trad ( going pole )" dont you understand :) :) :) no hard feelings. There is a big hotel done wfp near me and the glass looks so nice, it really shines, it just jumps out and grabs your eyes. This building could never have been done trad ( 40ft windows over long roofs etc ). Thats why pole is better, the glass shine is just alot nicer...... and for longer
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Yea glass looks good from a distance but get up close and then you will see, and I agree high windows should be cleaned with WFP for saftey reasons as I do but trad ( and if you know how to trad ) gives better results.
There has always been a them and us on forums regarding trad and wfp but i find the guys who dismiss trad are the ones who are soley wfp, they want to protect their investment.
Also if it wasn't for WFP and it's downsides this forum would be long gone by now.
IMO, and I wait for the backlash. HE HE. :o :o :o
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Asboss i don`t think it`s because it gives lots of trouble the pole that is,i think it`s because were all looking for better and more effective ways of using it.It`s also good to here other peoples experiences and how they tackle certain jobs,that video of P&R on you tube is the sort of thing i`d like to see more of.
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Too many variables,
watch out for the vents, oxidized frames , aluminimum frames, wont come good for about 2 to 3 cleans, trailing hoses and customers don't like it so they get dumped.I can go on for ever.
Trad: windows in inaccessible places and high windows and that's it.
I am all for WFP as it is safe, anyone can do it even my 14 year old daughter but using a squeegee is an art but i am sure you will argue untill you take your dying breath,
IMO again IMO
Regards
PS . Squeeks has it right.
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wheres the topic maker gone :o ??? ;D
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LWC couldn't trad to save his life,that's why he uses water on a stick. You only have to push up and down no skill needed at all. ;D ;D ;D ;D
hmm considering i traded 3 years before i changed over, and regurlarly clean insides for people, ill think youll find im a dammed good trader :P but again, i prefer wfp ;)
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Yea glass looks good from a distance but get up close and then you will see, and I agree high windows should be cleaned with WFP for saftey reasons as I do but trad ( and if you know how to trad ) gives better results.
There has always been a them and us on forums regarding trad and wfp but i find the guys who dismiss trad are the ones who are soley wfp, they want to protect their investment.
and i dont dismiss it at all...i trad most days, but insides only, as in MY opinion, wfp DOES do a better job. its not easy to use, so now your the one dismissing wfp saying theres no skill involved.
and water on a stick that i just rub up and down, love to see your windows when they dry! its not that simple at all! it DOES take skill. i wish i could just rub up and down a few times. it doesnt take 2 - 3 cleans if you use it well. hoses are never a problem as long as you hae signs out, if there is a problem, get a trolley or backpack. clean the vents out and then they wont run. so no you couldnt go on forever as i will stump ya :P
and yes its only a tool, one which i prefer to use as its better.
at the end of the day...we're all as bad as each other to be honest arent we! i prefer wfp so im gonna say to everyone they should use it, and other people are trad, and theyll reccomend that, but to be fair i never say dont trad or slag it off, but i could, for example, we did a school a few months ago, the downs got traded and up wfp'd, the downs look horrendous now and the wfp are still shining. get round that one?? wfp is quicker but its not easy!
its own personal preference at the end of the day isnt it
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wfp is quicker but its not easy!
I have to agree, i tried wfp for the first time on Friday and i felt well awkward and silly (trad for 21 yrs). How quick do you get over that feeling ::)
Still can't decide whether to change over or not.
Richard
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I cleaned my own windows on friday for the fifth time WFP with water at 0 tds. The entire house was near perfect with the exception of the kitchen window and door, which was spotted up from top to bottom and I have no idea why. I went over them again and they came up perfect the second time. So I'd say to get them to come up perfect or near perfect every time takes some skill.
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Is wfp a brand of squeegee?