Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Luke Johnson on July 02, 2007, 09:05:41 pm
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I need to know how much water you use as a lone wfp user on your busiest day and what size tank you use.
Basically I want to know what size tank I will need in my van, so this information will be very beneficial.
Please also state how long you have been using wfp, so I can see if there is a difference in water usage between newcomers and more experienced users.
Thank you very much, Luke
ps. it doesnt matter what type of work you do, just how much water you use on your busiest day
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to heck with a survey get the biggest you can afford or the most your vans payload will allow
You wont regret it , Plan for the future I say
Chris
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i have a 400 litre tank, been wfp for 1 year, i was using around 300 + litres on good days, i have now bought a backpack, had my best day ever the other day and used 170 litres ;)
backpack, way forward
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Been cleaning windows for 4 years wfp, and have given up so many small jobs and have done even bigger jobs.I now have 400 ltrs used to have a 700 ltr but 400 does the same dont need anything bigger how much water did you used to use on an applicator? not much i can do 70 flats or 350 windows on 400 ltrs easy with varistream and microbore.
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this is good people, keep posting
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I would say 400 is enough for anyone but 650 will be nice in a traffic
with 2 staff like us you`ll make it easier for yourself and make more money!!
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this is good people, keep posting
I did get through about 700 litres in a day once but that was exceptional. It was wall to wall glass, a filthy first clean and I used a high flow rate. Due to the size of the jobs there was little driving so it was pumping out for hours. I could have got away with less but didn't have the experience then to know that. I have used 550 - 600 litres a few times since then but more typically, it's very unusual for me to go above 500 litres in a day.
I have an 800 litre tank but don't fill it as the van would be overloaded.
I've noticed that I get through less water since I started using a smaller bore hose.
Although it's better to get as big a tank as possible, 650 litres for a single operator should be ample. To make sure of this a smaller bore hose and/or something like a varistream (I don't use one myself) to control the flow would help.
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I've got a 400L tank in a Trafic and I fill it every day. (if I've done a full day).
I'd say I need 300+litres most days.
I reckon I use 50-70L per hour.
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squeaky you ever considered a backpack? you would save loads of water
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squeaky you ever considered a backpack? you would save loads of water
Yes, and I don't want one.
Too much extra kit to worry about.
Too much time wasted filling it.
Got a bad back anyway.
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I have 650ltr in my van. A couple of days per month i get through 300-350ltrs but my avarage day is 200ltrs.
I have triggers on my poles, use a varistream & microbore.
My next van will only have a 400ltr tank.
Macc
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ah no worries, only a thought buddy
i hardly noice filling it, its not all that heavy...but then i dont have a bad back
just trying to save you some water hehe
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I have a flat 400L tank in a Doblo - the most I use in a day is 400L (tho' once I went back for 200L more on a first clean set of offices and a small block of flats)
If starting from scratch I'd use an upright tank so that when the water is low it will still cover the outlet without parking to suit the camber of the road.
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I have a 650 ltr system most days i use about half a tank but i have on quite a few occasions used nearly the full 650 ltrs but that was on builders cleans not regular cleans.
paul
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650l tank for me too, most days I use over half of it, occasionally I'll use a whole tank, but not often, and when I do it will be a long working day.
What tank you get will be dictated by the payload of your vehicle, go for the largest tank your vehicle can safely carry.
Squeaks for instance had his tank for an escort van and transfered it to his Traffic, I'm sure that if he'd got his Traffic first he would have gone for a larger tank.
Far better to have spare capacity than not to do so.
Ian
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I would say 400 is enough for anyone but 650 will be nice in a traffic
with 2 staff like us you`ll make it easier for yourself and make more money!!
Thats where ive been going wrong as i have 2 x 400 ltr tanks but in different vans oh in different areas 1 tank cleans 70 flats @ £700 in one place the other does ..............70 flats in another place for £700 ive tried a bigger tank with 2 people and how much more can be done? 5 - 7 houses if your lucky but if you have 2 vans in different locations then you make even more money ...more money wages paid ....let it rain money in the bank
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Hi i've a 650ltr tank use about half of that daily only one job i do takes the whole tank 650ltrs so i would say 300 to 400ltrs for one man is ample.
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400 lt. tank
100 lt in 25 lt bottles (just in case ;))
Usually get through nearly a tankful - only had to use the reserve a couple of times.
Cheers,
Ian
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650L tank in the van but only fill it to around 500l...I would say that daily I would average around 250 - 300....but the odd day where I can use 450+
But I like to keep the van filled to 500 as I have 2 internconnected 500l vats that I like to keep as full as possible....
;D
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I have a 650L upright tank and would normally use between 200-300 litres a day.
Now I use the backpack all the time I use half of that!
What a waste of a tank! >:(
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I have a 400 ltr tank and use about 250 - 350 ltrs on the odd occasion i will top up another 100 ltrs but that is rare
Clear vision does using a back pack really save that much water as i use microbore and varistream and when not using the pole between windows i turn the flow off i dont see where i could save that amount of water
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400 L and use about 3/4 of a tank most days.
Just the odd day here and there i will use pretty much all of it.
I used to use a backpack and think you use less water running a Varistream with Microbore, plus less hassle having to fill it up.
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i have a 750 in expert set up to men it will last two of us a 5 hours tops
by myself on a busy day i will use about 500 liters mind you i know it by then as thats a lot of work
it seems that domestic work uses far more water then commercial so you need to evaluate where your business will go, i would say 500 is a good size system 650 is good if you can afford one and it fits with your vans payload.
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Easyclean
70 FLATS.....................£700.............is this a £10 per block price, or £10 per flat?
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i have citroen dispatch with 400 ltr tank and sub pump. microbore, pump but no varistream. Also freedom trolley.
I use between 200-400 litres per day. Twice in last 16 months i've wanted more.
Clear vision does using a back pack really save that much water as i use microbore and varistream and when not using the pole between windows i turn the flow off i dont see where i could save that amount of water
I think where the backpack and 25litre trolleys help you conserve water is that you don't know how big a house your water will stretch to. And therefore run out with a window or several left.
After a while of refilling halfway through (which is a huge drawback), you automatically refine your method until you've stretched that water round all the windows.
Jobs which use more water than is carried are much quicker with microbore, in my opinion.
I haven't been able to go as low as jeff brimble(??) though.
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Jeff is the exception that 'probes' the rule!
Few will manage what he has done.
A way of making your water go further is of course to reduce your flowrate, but with a low flowrate (Jeff being the exception) you have to work slower as the flushing of the glass is of course far less than you can get with a higher flowrate.
Work too quickly with a low flowrate and unless highly skilled (re Jeff Brimble) the quality of your work will suffer (spotting etc).
One of my batteries is misbehaving, my flowrate has dropped considerably, I don't mind too much at the moment, but I have noticed that I've had to take more time.
Occasionally it fires on all four so to speak, flowrate is right back up there again and suddenly I'm working half as fast again than I was before.
But that also requires skill -to work fast with a high flowrate - so you need to be able to temper your flowrate to your workrate.
Therefore you also need to be able to increase or decrease your flowrate accordingly....
If you are working with a backpack, a high flowrate will have you constantly needing to refill :-\
If you only have a relatively small tank in your vehicle, you will be hampered by the thought that if you use a high flowrate you are going to run out of water, and that will affect the way in which you work.
You can never have too big a tank (loading values notwithstanding of course) so don't go for the smallest tank you can get away with, go for the biggest.
Ian