Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: homenclean on June 29, 2007, 08:37:31 pm
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I would be interested to know if any of you guys out there are getting a lot of enquiries from pubs, hotels etc.
I have booked 2 in for next week both regulars though, not new business.
I would have to say i was maybe expecting a few enquiries at least.
But when i spoke to an area manager of a national pub management co. he said that 1 company had been awarded all of their pubs (probably a franchise).
I would appreciate your thoughts and comments on this and how as a forum we could some how create a network that would allow us to compete for national contracts with brewerys, insurance co. etc.
Thanks
John
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Green King have issued all their Pubs with smoke removal kits to save money on getting proffesional cleaners in.
They are not entertaining the idea of cleaning the carpets. They are worried about the effects of this stupid ruling ( I'm a None Smoker) will have on their trade so they are spending minimal monies on this.
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I must admit i was very skeptical about this generating any real business and consequently did no marketing towards these customers, but have as of today booked three pubs and two restaurants for after July 1 , all new business and all saying they just want rid of the smoke and fresh new start when the ban comes in!
So i was proved wrong, there does seem to be work to be had, wish i'd done some more marketing towards it now ::)
regards
steve
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We've had a steady stream of pub work this last month, as a few pubs went non smoking from the 1st June.
Got one booked in for Monday morning and two later in the week.
We are also offering an overnight service, including ceiling, wall and ornament cleaning, as well as carpets and upholstery (2 takes so far)
Champion is excellent on smoke damaged walls, nicotine justs washes straight off, you do go through a lot of towels though.
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Ive got to clean up a smoking canteen next week, who makes this champion product?
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Ive got to clean up a smoking canteen next week, who makes this champion product?
Craftex
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Great that some of you are getting work and I suggest you grab it, now, because many of these establishments will have stopped trading within 6 months...................
This will be disputed, but the reality is there to be seen..................no pubs are flourishing anymore, a few are surviving, but there are more and more closing each week, many have been local institutions, for decades !
Now.............if the banning order was going to result in a massive improvement, in the health of the nation and reduction in crime, I WOULD BE SHOUTING SUPPORT FROM THE ROOFTOPS, but, unfortunatey, it's not going to be the case and I should add I neither smoke nor drink.
We are already in the second generation of abusers of drugs ( other peoples medication ) and alcohol which is costing our society dear and unfortunately the same age groups have a very sad perspective on, Law, Decency, Respect, etc, having virtually no guidance when growing up.
These people don't drink in pubs, their idea of being social, is collectively beating up women and strangers, but sadly, they seem to be on the increase, so the social aspect to pubs has been eroding for some time and with less people using them, they only needed a large and final nail to be driven into the coffin.
This is what's happening with the TOTAL ban.
Obviously, there are many decent, honest, hard working. family orientated people out their, also, but I really worry for the future, or demise of this great little collection of people that makes up the UK.
Rant over
rob
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Good rant, but unfounded.
The pub trade in scotland is flourishing since they banned smoking, I was recently up at Edinburgh and also at Crieff in the Trossacks and both places had busy pub trade.
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Lionheart you talking absolute nonesense.........................in the largest town near me Paisley there are currently about 12 pubs which have closed as a result of the smoking ban and drawings are down to the extent that the Scottish Executive have been petitioned in a desperate move to have ammendments to the ban.
We were actively looking at the pub market over the past two years, but with the impending ban, held off, fortunately !
We have family connections in the licenced trade and our daughter has just lost her job, because of the drop in business.
I live in a small town, which had three busy pubs and a busy hotel......................two of the pubs have closed since the ban and the hotel was replaced, with housing.
Incidentally, you are referring to very busy tourist areas, which will possibly manage to survive
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What about a non smokers ban ;D ;D ;D
All the non smokers are gonna get taxed heavier cos of the loss in revenue. The loss will be either in people giving up smoking or giving up the pub, either way we`ll all pay for it in the end. Geoff
PS its all balls, wifes grandad is 94 and smokes like a trooper
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Of course pubs will close as a result of this ban, a ban which has not been thought out properly.
I mean, how can they say you can smoke in a van BUT if only one person uses the van, and then go on to say if 2 people are in the van neither are allowed to smoke EVEN IF they are both smokers ! what a load of crap.
Those who keep saying it's worked well in scotland and wales and ireland etc are wrong if the truths told, and besides which England is a totaly different issue.
I believe there will be a lot of resistance to this and that amendments to the ban will be demanded.
They that know reckon over 5000 jobs directly within the pub chain will be lost at a minimum.
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Welcome to the nanny state, we live in a free society but are dictated to by idiots! How fitting that one of the only public places you can smoke is prison or the bars in the house of common.
Do as i Say not as i do! British politics in the 21st century.
John
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I will agree that there will be a critical change to follow. In Australia they put this ban into place about 2years ago and not even 1 month later the laws were amended because of the loss of jobs and dare we say revenue to the government as people began to give up the smoke.
I personally gave up years ago but in all truth they are cutting the social life out. ( Are we all to become hurmits).
As far as work goes I havent been able to get any even after letters to pubs/clubs/rest and also personally going in.
Some I have spoke to will clean on there 6mth round but not before as they belive the ban will not stick....
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Glynn
Why is it a completely different issue in England...................you're not not that much different !!!!
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We are different, the English keep their cigs in their pockets Scots keep them in their chip on their shoulder or as Billy Connolly says 'a well balanced Scotsman has a chip on both shoulders' so that's 2 packet of cigs :o
I agree that this will just shove people into their own homes to drink and smoke, I have a friend that goes to his other mates houses just to have a social 'smoke fest' he says he's just waiting for the Government to put the price of cigarettes up stupidly to say £10 a packet. They said smaking will be the death of us but so will non smoking with the knock on effect.
Shaun (non smoker)
PS sorry for the bad joke Robert
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Never mind smoking the government are trying to tax us to death!
John
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Close to the truth Shaun, about your countrymen, except that you forgot to mention, the English take lit fAgs out of their pockets.
rob
Trust you were spared the flooding !
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Carpetguy got to disagree with you about the pub trade in paisley and the smoking ban.The pub trade in paisley has been dying for about 10 years now there is just to many pubs in the one town anybody that drinks in paisley seen this coming years ago.
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OK Darren expand it to Greenock / Ayrshire / Glasgow and beyond. We were actively looking at the licenced trade over the past couple of years and there are dozens closed or on the market, but not necessarily showing notices on the building.
There is one little corner of Paisley which is still busy, but it's clubby rather than pubby.
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Im glad that finally this ban has come into force
now i can go out have a good time and not come home stinking of smoke
also i wont spend the next day coughing my guts up because the pub was full of smoke
if i wanted to kill myself with chemicals i;d suck on a car exhaust
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Carpet Guy
Where we live in Yateley none of the pubs will close because they are all making changes to accomadate the new rules.
I also live close to a place called Wokingham where they used to hold the record for the most Pubs in a sq mile, and none of them will close either, I dont think it will make a lot of difference because most pubs down south have adapted anyway to serve food.
Dublin is doing better since they changed the rules so think all these comments about the industry is going to fall through is just not going to happen.
I my opion it only going to be Pubs that dont change or wont change will suffer from this and go out of business.
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the pubs that i go in have banned smoking for about 4-6 weeks now
talking to the landlords, they say they have more new customers and trade has increased by qiute a lot
im sure some place will suffer but thats life
tescos has done its fare share of getting of rid of small shops, but a least its always open and well stocked.
i suppose its survival of the fittest, those pubs who survive will be the ones that adapt to the change
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Have to say I agree with a smoking ban in Pubs, everytime I come home my hair & clothes stink of smoke, that can't be right.
As for pubs closing, well thats been happening for ages now especially in village areas, people are spending much more time at home now than they used to for whatever reason.
People used to smoke everywhere, it's hard to believe that it was ok to smoke in an Aeroplane a few years ago, can you imagine that now.
Sorry but smoking should be done outside.
Cue abuse! ::)
Phil
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Neil
Pubs have sold food in this part of the world for years and all, with the space, have built the allowable outside areas,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nonetheless, about one in three have closed, are failing, or are for sale.
I hate smoke in pubs or resturants and welcome the ban, but feel it's not going to have the desired effect on the nations health, as people will just change their habits and continue to smoke and drink at home,
The social aspect will suffer and that's not good !
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I am a non smoker although I did smoke heavily as a teenager and into my early twenties. I could give up until a bout of gastic problems that lasted for three months did the trick. If I smoked now I would be unable to lead the active life that I do in my liesure time, nor would I be able to afford it.
I can understand the feeling of smokers on this subject and obviously they are bound to be against the smoking ban. But for me and my wife, yesterday we came back from our local pub after a pleasant meal and drink and for the first time, after we hung our coats in the hall, it didnt stink like a tobbaco factory every time we passed through. Mind you we did get a concetrated lung full as we left the pub as we had to run the gauntlet of around 10 smokers who were blocking the entrance due to the heavy rain, and I noticed about fifty fAg ends outside that entrance today as I passed.
Personaly, I think they could have managed it better. I just about remember that at one time (A long time ago) they used to have a smoke room in the pubs, and perhaps they could have reintroduced something similar with improved extraction.
Dave.
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Oh and the MD of Green King was on Breakfast TV this morning telling that Declan whop does the Cutry articles that they hadnt noticed any shortfall in the takings north of the Border so far and that over all they were up by XXXX%, (Sorry cant remember how much he said but he would know I suppose).
Long live the ban!
Murky
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I saw the interview, he's hardly going to go on to a T V programme and make statements which would wipe ££££££££££££££££££££ off the companies' share value.
Some of you are living in cloud cuckoo land and ignore the warning signs,,,,,,,,,,,,until it's too late, commonly known as " crisis management ".
Anyone with anything to do with the licenced trade, who denies there has been a huge fall in business and that pubs are closing at an alarming rate, is either a fool, or a liar or both,
I have regular updates from Punch Taverns and other owners because we were actively looking at the licenced trade over the past two years, so am up to date with the REALITY of the situation.
The purpose of my post, was simple..............don't depend, or expect work from this market in the future, as much of it will be gone.
The area with potential opportunity, is the BREWERS FAYRE type outlets, as they are mainly food outlets. Unfortunately, they are serviced by a nationwide set up at the moment.