Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Neil Williams on June 28, 2007, 09:32:56 pm
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Anyone else falling out of love with M-Power?
Just lately been doing an awful amount of white/nearly white carpets of various types (and this is really where you find out how good a clean is).
I've even taking to heating the M-Power up,spray, agitate with a pad, leave 10 minutes then using a heated pad to remove.
The results have basically been disappointing, so I end up getting out the full range of various spotters which although achieving the end result defies using this one 'magic' solution.
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Its just salt water.
expensive salt water, lol.
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Tried it on various cleans, er cr*p >:(
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Is it similar to Nemisis? I tried some and it as good as m/s but like the idea that I can leave it to dwell if necessary.
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why is it on clleantalk people thinks its brilliant and they get fantastic results, but on cleanitup people thinks its crap..... someone must be lying ::)
Mike
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I like it but i like other cleaning items as well, my prefered agent this week is MS but that can and always will change. IMHO I can't see any difference between Nemesis and M power apart from the price.
Shaun
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I don't have a problem with M/S previously there were different types for different situations. Along comes M-Power which will cover just about all situations in a one solution does it all.
So the thought of just carry one 5L container around with nothing else at all are forever gone.
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I find that it tends to work better on wool
Dene
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It's very good if you are low moisture cleaning, perhaps that is why Nick is the UK director of the Low moisture Association??
All depends on what you are cleaning, I now do believe that there is NOT 1 product that suits all.
Shaun
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Hi Guys,
Stains and dirt, fibres, method, temperature etc .
There are so many variables that to suggest one product is going to be the best on everything is plainly wrong.
Cheers
Doug
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Not today it didn't. The place was full of expensive wool carpets. Yes the customer was happy with the results but I felt a lot more extra work was involved because the 'magic' solution didn't perform without extra help from other products.
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Like all products the test is to use it yourself.
I have not been motivated to buy it I am happy with what I use
Only been asked once for Water only cleaning.
Another Lady insisted I did not use that method
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I would also agree with Ian.
Perhaps this product doe's work.......but there has been much controversy about it.
So much so, I would also tend to stay away.....mainly because it's been over hyped and the results are variable by different users.
John
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Mike
Clean Talk always reminds me of the Labour government in the late 90's. You all had to sing from the same song sheet. Or on the other hand, could it be that M-power users are not that fussy about the quality of their clean
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All very interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a number of " new " innovative products launched with a blaze and their fire seems to be going out.
I have mentioned before, that I have had tremendous success, with a very inexpensive poduct, from Yorkshire, which dealt with almost all situations.
Today, for example......................a typical alcoholics hostal, run by a church charity.
The carpets were in the usual filthy state including some very unsavoury black patches, similar to black top, but harder.
All I used, was this powder and water at around 50 degrees......................presprayed with the carpet lance and simply worked away for about two hours.
I would have achieved the same result with many other products and I should stress that I was only using a single, three stage vac machine, with just 135 psi.
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It makes me laugh ,the people who always seem to have the greatest opinions on products are the ones who have never tried them.I have had some very dissapointing results using M power on polypropelene apart from Lm method on carpet tiles which it works very well on, but excellent results on other fibres.Have not tried Nemisis yet ,so can not comment.
Mark
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All very interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a number of " new " innovative products launched with a blaze and their fire seems to be going out.
I have mentioned before, that I have had tremendous success, with a very inexpensive poduct, from Yorkshire, which dealt with almost all situations.
Today, for example......................a typical alcoholics hostal, run by a church charity.
The carpets were in the usual filthy state including some very unsavoury black patches, similar to black top, but harder.
All I used, was this powder and water at around 50 degrees......................presprayed with the carpet lance and simply worked away for about two hours.
I would have achieved the same result with many other products and I should stress that I was only using a single, three stage vac machine, with just 135 psi.
What is this powder called ? and who supplys it.
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Neil,
Reading your original comment again why don't you prespray and extract using a good quality product .It works for me !
Cheers
Doug
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why is it on clleantalk people thinks its brilliant and they get fantastic results, but on cleanitup people thinks its crap..... someone must be lying ::)
Mike
Maybe its because cleantalk is ran by the supplier of m power,they are all brainwashed by the constant drivel and arse licking that goes on the said forum ;D
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I was banned from C/ T for challenging some claims......................pretty pathetic and pretty stupid. Every contributor is a potential buyer!
It's all very well scanning the world for innovative products, but, when all you do, is re hash existing products, you will get found out, sooner or later.
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Hi guys
Yes I got fooled to buy this product and tried it on several type of carpets and to tell you the truth it didn’t work on any type of carpets.
What’s so sad about this company is that they have poured lots of money to market this product and they haven’t researched it well. Now after this bad publicity, people like us won’t have so much trust in their company any more.
Why and why and why?
Regards
Bosh
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I personally get very good results from it - on wool carpets. I specialise in low-moisture work and Shaun has pointed out that it works well with that system.
Reading Neil's comments I believe that it is a problem with his methods. He says he agitates with pads. M-Power works best while wet, it continues to clean as it dries. If he uses pads straight after pre-spraying it is taking the moiture out - thus reducing it's effectiveness. By using heated pads afterwards the heat is causing it to dry even faster.
If Neil used brushes rather than pads to agitate, and then damp pads to bonnet off later he should get better results.
Chris
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francis, dont talk wet, saying that M-Power users dont have as high standards is an idiotic remark. If it be M-Power or Nemesis (ive used both) they do if used correctly give a good result on wool, its the same as any other product you need to work out how best to use it and once you do its good stuff. Ive also used it on low moisture and its a very good product, i think my standards are very high, and i know Sheffield Shauns are too, ive dumped plenty of products in the past becuase they havent given results so why would this be any different.
Dene
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I don't understand why there are so many people willing to slag off m-power as well as other solutions products when they don't say a word about other manufacturers products which are very similar.
I use M-Power for most of my work and 95% of the time get very good results. I was also on the original testing board made up of a group of cleaners from around the country to trial the product and help with the research and developement so Boshravie for you to say that the product wasn't researched properly you are simply way off the mark. I have seen first hand what went into researching this product.
It just so happened that last night i was cleaning the downstairs corridors and lounge in an old peoples home. It was minging and it wasn't helped by the previous cleaners attempts which left the carpet slightly shrunk (belgium Wilton which is poly prop by the way.) among other things. I cleaned it at low pressures and with minimal prespray and agitation to stop too much moisture going too far. I was concerned that M - Power may not cut it but after much deliberation decided to tryt it on the first section and if it didn't work carry on with something a little stronger.
I have uploaded a photo of the results. This was just outside of the kitchen as you can see from the tiles. The dirty part was dirtier but this is obviously after pre spray and agitation so it has already started to get to work. This simply blew me away and it all came out with ease.
Cheers Goron
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I tried with high expectations after reading all the comments on the other forum but have now gone back to normal micro splitters. Sometimes works very well, sometimes very poor. I don't have time to mess about with something on the off chance it might work.
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Its food grade salt water your paying through the nose for, lol!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisodium_phosphate
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Chris that is not m power!
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What is M-power then?
I thought it was a soduim phosphate.
please enlighten us.
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Chris m power is a colloidal cleaner
first generation Microsplitters are phosphate based not m power!
Goron
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Tis cornish sea water me hearties, cap'n nick baldbeard will make those who talk ill of it walk the cleantalk plank :-*
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You see it is these rare childish comments that gives this forum a bad name and prevents some of the more experienced in the community from posting, which is a big loss.
Cheers Goron
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::) ::) ::) Give it a rest, your econess ;D
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Just try Blitz with a t/m or otherwise it does what it says on the can....Simon
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No need for the silly remarks, either it works for or it doesn't no one forces any us to use products, we see the info and marketing try them out and if its no good move on. For instance there is a Prochem solution which I know lots of you would use but I just can not get on with.
I use M-Power to good effect and also use it in conjunction with Texatherm where the results are outstanding.
If you ask me nicely I might even show you how its done at the CCDO ;)
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oneof the things that has upset me over the years is that certain cleaners who follow the Gospel think they are Gods Gift to the Carpet Cleaning industry.
I do not agree with the silly coments as I have said
Try products if younwant to invest in them if they work for you fine if not use what you are use to.
Every now and then this topic pops up not sure if its hype to get people talking and phones ringing but I am fed up with it so I am going to lock it.