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Title: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: paul mather on June 28, 2007, 08:37:00 pm
I went into a local firm that specialises in hoses & connectors & saw these, so I bought a couple just to try.

They are brilliant, much better than the flow valves (which are actually gas valves adapted for flexible pipes) supllied by some WFP companies. They are alot sturdier & seem to increase the flow on my pole without using too much water. You can even get the brass tails in different sizes, so they will fit any size of hose.

They are so good it has crossed my mind selling them perhaps on Ebay. What do you reckon?

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Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: Chris Cottrell on June 28, 2007, 08:43:01 pm
They look v.good they do those in the RS catalogues not sure how much but not that expensive i believe

let us know how long they last

Chris
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: Davew on June 28, 2007, 08:53:39 pm
Look very similar to the ones from Gardiners?
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Post by: Chris Cottrell on June 28, 2007, 08:56:32 pm
these are the ones from Gardiners
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: paul mather on June 28, 2007, 09:05:29 pm
The problem with those are that they are designed for the gas industry & therefore are made to be attached to a copper pipe, so in order for the olive not to squeeze the plastic hose small inserts are put inside to give it rigidity. They are fine for a while but after a bit they can easily work loose & if you tighten them up too much the olive can easily cut into the hose causing a leak. Don't get me wrong I'm not slagging off Gardiner's gear, I just think I've found a better alternative!

These are specifically designed to restrict the flow of liquids & the brass tails give a much sturdier connection that should last alot longer.
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Post by: Davew on June 28, 2007, 09:17:18 pm
Look good to me.
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Post by: thewindowcleaner1 on June 28, 2007, 10:06:00 pm
I use these from the RO man simple plug and play
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Post by: Lesa m on June 28, 2007, 10:10:51 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they are fitting for an RO System. I'm talking about a valve fitted to your pole to stop & start the flow to your brush.
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: marc on June 28, 2007, 10:53:29 pm
paul your fittings are great until the plastic on off bit breaks off have tried those before if you could get them with a stonger oin off bit they would be great even tried the ones with metal on off bit ,they lasted a lot longer but still broke                                                                                                    marc
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: geefree on June 28, 2007, 11:16:00 pm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6mm-Microbore-Quick-Release-Connector-And-Tap-Fitting_W0QQitemZ230145652200QQihZ013QQcategoryZ112579QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

what about this.  ::)
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: NWH on June 28, 2007, 11:21:13 pm
That looks like a normal gas tap fitting that you can buy from any good builders merchants,sorry but it dosent look like anything new.
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: thewindowcleaner1 on June 29, 2007, 07:44:03 am
Quote
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they are fitting for an RO System. I'm talking about a valve fitted to your pole to stop & start the flow to your brush

Yes but they can be used with micro bore by shaving the hose
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 29, 2007, 07:55:28 am
Paul, I used those and the plastic piece breaks off in no time. it's also quite heavy for shin-smacking as you reel it in!

I got a similar slightly lighter one from Avonmouth Rubber and Plastics (0117 9826301) with a metal butterfly (wingnut type) handle which has lasted me a year. (Even that has lost half of one of it's butterfly ears in a particularly vicious hose v house corner incident  ;D) From memory it was about £6/7. I wear it in a leather pop stud holster on my hip (bet you're jealous Tosh!)

The ro-man tap is good fitted to the pole near the brush for quick "on-off" work downstairs but you can always fold over the hose instead.
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: john masterclean on June 29, 2007, 08:03:25 am
it looks exactly the same as the flow valve thats on the omnitrolleys. if it is i know that the red plastic lever wares out quickly
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: Easyclean Windows on June 29, 2007, 08:23:20 am
I get mine from a company who deals in air line connectors which is what microbore hose is really for

these are also on ebay

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Post by: TVCS on June 29, 2007, 07:32:59 pm
I`d buy a couple.
My flow valves keep leaking and the pipe keeps getting eaten by the olives
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Post by: TVCS on July 11, 2007, 09:04:44 pm
How are they working out Paul??
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Post by: Russell Macdonald on July 12, 2007, 12:03:48 am
I get mine from a company who deals in air line connectors which is what microbore hose is really for

these are also on ebay



I use them too.

A little tip, get some silicon lubricant, smear a little around the male & couple with the female. My connections last for ages now.

Macc
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Post by: Jeff Brimble on July 12, 2007, 04:53:51 am
For a tap that works anywhere on your hose, try Algarde silicon air type hose instead, its so fast,  flexible and light.  :)
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Post by: Alex Gardiner on July 12, 2007, 07:32:29 am
We have used these for customers where they want a valve on the microbore side of things. They do have the advantage of allowing an end-stop to be screw directly into them, they also  fit any size hose barb. As has been mentioned though the plastic lever is just not as long lasting as the metal lever versions.

From our point of view they also take longer to assemble in the workshop!
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: paul mather on July 12, 2007, 07:57:32 am
How are they working out Paul??

So far so good. I take the point about the red plastic switch being it's weak point, so I make a point of keeping hold of it when walking to a window, I'm sure if I let it drag on the floor it would break fairly quickly.
The switch is attached by a screw so I'm going to make some enquiries as to wether it could be replaced by a metal switch, giving it a bit more strength.

Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: Pj on July 12, 2007, 08:25:54 am
I`d buy a couple.
My flow valves keep leaking and the pipe keeps getting eaten by the olives


Are they like those Gremlin things? ;D :o ;D
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Post by: RO-Sheen on July 12, 2007, 10:00:19 am
but you can always fold over the hose instead.

Thats what I do. Even when going to the next window I just fold the hose coming out of the brush in two to stop the flow. A lot quicker and cheaper than fitting a flow valve!  Been doing that for over a year and so far no damage/split in the hose.
Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: TVCS on July 12, 2007, 01:25:47 pm
paul let me know if you decide to flog some
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Post by: paul mather on July 12, 2007, 02:20:56 pm
paul let me know if you decide to flog some

They are on Ebay, just type in WFP. They have been on there for the last 10 days!! I think they only have about 5 hours to run, so if you see this message after that time give me a ring on 07977 517914.

Title: Re: If I was to sell these would you be interested?
Post by: paul mather on July 13, 2007, 09:21:28 pm
paul let me know if you decide to flog some

TVCS

Decided to relist them if you are still interested, just search under WFP, water fed pole or window cleaning. I have listed them at £9.95 each plus £2.50 p&p.