Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: paul@ctcs on September 26, 2004, 10:51:02 pm
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Evening fellas, I'm planing to use my charlie pads for the first time in the morning and wondered if you chaps experienced with them may be able to pass on some knowledge regarding there best use.
Thanks Paul
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Not used them myself yet Paul, but just follow the instructions carefully. Make sure you prepare the pads correctly. If it's particularly warm, or sunlight is hitting the carpet, your pre-spray may dry out rapidly before cleaning, so be warned. Do a test first on an unsighted area of carpet to check for pile distortion/damage before proceeding. Expect very good results if comparing with cotton bonnets, and let us know how the job goes.
Safe and happy padding :)
Ken
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Thanks Ken I'll report back with my results :)
Paul
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Paul
I take it that you are doing commercial low profile, what rotary machine are you using?
They are totally crap in removing gum, and then my TM/Porty can’t do it ether! Thinking of taking the wife’s hover mower on next job, have considered the chain saw not sure if customer would be happy.
John B ant getting his buckets back nor the Charlie’s some one has nicked them.
Remember all LM systems are maintenances clean only, it may take three to four cleans.
Len
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I have been using the pads for all carpet tiles. the results are brilliant. I leave them in the solution and then wring out by hand until they do not drip any more and then use them with a standard speed bonnet.
Really happy with them
Regards
John
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Thanks Guys, the rotary is a numatic 200rpm machine, the carpet i'm going to use the charlie pads on is a short pile synthetic which i extraction cleaned a few weeks ago and transformed it from solid black tar like mess to a bright, clean, gum covered carpet :P
I've since then removed hundreds of stamped in wads of gum using Solutions gum remover, this has left some slight marks behind so plan to remedy this and bring it up to scatch with the pads.
Paul
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Nick Holman seems to like them, but don't mention Chinese ;)
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Chris
May I add nor the Bangladeshis.
I’m into a nick-picking mood.
Paul
Gum one or two not a problem but hundreds in one locations sorry not into bowing to any one unless the pay for it.
Len
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John (Pristine),
I have Charly Pads but yet to be convinced about them, but then again I am not a great fan of Bonnet cleaning.
I would love to know where the dirt goes, I still cant get it out of my head that I am just moving it around.
Didnt get any instructions with mine, but all I do is soak them in a microsplitter like you, ring them out and clean.
Only ever used them on low profile, I do feel this method is only any good for very very lightly soiled carpet.
Phil
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John B ant getting his buckets back nor the Charlie’s some one has nicked them.
Len,
Please tell me you were kidding.
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I tried them with the Dry fusion machine but they simply will not stay on the grippers. Nick said he would send me on another type of gripper so I will see what happens then.
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Len, They are paying for the gum removal plus i have a maintenance plan worked out with this customer so could prove to be worth a few blisters scrubbing out the gum :)
Paul
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John
Yes I am
Len ;D
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For John Bolton
John I put them in Len's garage myself. So I know that there safe.
Kevin 8)
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Good morning! I just got back from my first charlie pad experience and I'm happy with the results. After vacuuming all the ash and butt's i very lightly pre sprayed with Solution #2 ( 20-1 ratio ) and misted a little Eco spotter on to the residue left behind from gum removal. With The double ringer bucket filled with one side cold clean water and the other side warm water plus solution #2 at 15-1. I soaked the pads in the solution and rung out then covered about 10 square meters before changing pads. The results were great and i managed to cover around 100 sq m's in a little over an hour ;D I'll be quicker next time now i've got it sussed.
Paul
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Hi guys
Interesting thread especially those still sceptical about results of pad cleaning.
I don't agree that its just for very lightly soiled carpets or just maintanance cleans as I have used my Texatherm System on heavily soiled carpets with very good results.
Last Friday I did a large office area that had been HWE & Dry Foam cleaned with disastrous results.Carpet tiles were left very heavily soiled in all the main areas, the Texatherm took this right out and left the tiles dry within minutes.
(I was going to use Charly Pads for the first time on a test area but they didn't arrive)
I also clean domestic carpets using Texatherm, when drying times are an issue, and have returned soiled carpets back to an acceptable level of cleanliness,
Like all these things it just takes practice ;)
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If the results of HWE were disasterous it must have been done wrongly or large amounts of residue were left, resulting in quick resoiling, a splash and dash cleaner in before you perhaps woodman? I dont doubt the results which Texatherm can produce i understand they can be excellent but surely HWE should produce at the very least just as good results if a little wetter??
Paul
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Texatherm is the way to go for low profile carpets IMO. Faster, easier, dryer, more money per hour.
Woodman
I've tried Texatherm on domestic carpets but never really feel its as clean as HWE. Do you offer it as a system or just for the problem carpets (BWiltons).
thanks
Mark
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Hi Phil (Deep Clean)
Not sure where the dirt goes but it does go. I have used them on lightly and heavily soiled carpet tiles for one perticular customer on their offices and canteen and the results were great even after they had dried.
Might want to talk to Nick about where the dirt goes to shed some light for you.
Regards
John
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I would never use them in a domestic situation, I feel like I am ripping the customer off.
Last time I used them on a low profile carpet I went over the carpet after with HWE and pulled out lots of soil, so explain that.
I am convinced that this type of clean only skims the surface, its not a deep clean, on a heavily soiled carpet (which lets be honest is more often than not) it will still be filthy after, but cosmeticaly it may look OK.
Phil
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Phil
I'm talking about Texatherm not charlie pads as Ive never used them. After I clean a 6x6 meter area I use a new pad.
With office tiles even after HWE you can bonnett the carpet and it will still pull up more soil. IMO Texatherm cleans the carpet enough to please the customer everytime with no wickback, bad smells, long drying etc etc. But as I said I'm not sold using it on domestic carpets although I use it on BWiltons with great results.
If I was you I'd get a demo at one of your customers premises so you can see and compare the results. If like me, until then you'll not be able to accept the system as a viable option.
Mark
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I would never use them in a domestic situation, I feel like I am ripping the customer off.
Last time I used them on a low profile carpet I went over the carpet after with HWE and pulled out lots of soil, so explain that.
I am convinced that this type of clean only skims the surface, its not a deep clean, on a heavily soiled carpet (which lets be honest is more often than not) it will still be filthy after, but cosmeticaly it may look OK.
Phil
With all due respect Phil,
You probably didn't vacuum sufficiently enough if you got so much soil out afterwards.This is exactly what the cleaners did on the job I mentioned above which is why it went horribly wrong for them.
Your wrong in your assumption that you can not get a deep down clean using Texatherm or similar system, If used correctly the solutions on mixing will cause the dirt to rise to the surface for removal by the flip side of the pad, this is called an exothermic reaction it happens very quickly which is why we cover small areas only at a time (6sq mts) and it does work.
( have to say constant changing of pads is pain in the 'arris ::))
I do use this system on domestics (never thought I would) and it works very well, certainly isn't cosmetic you just have to have an open mind when approaching new systems of cleaning IMHO ;)..... oh dear, another abbreviation ;D
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I meant 6 sq meters not 36 ::)
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Hi Guys,
Never tried texatherm or Dry Fusion but do know what an exothernic reaction is.
It produces more heat energy when 2 or more chemicals are mixed together.
e.g Add acid to water it gets hot , so exothermic reaction.
Opposite is caled an endothermic reaction.
Cheers,
Doug
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Hi guys, With regard to where all the dirt goes, I used a double ringer with my charlie pads, on one side i had clean cold water and on the other side hot water with the solution mix. When I removed the soiled pad i first rinsed and rung it out a couple of times in the cold water and after a few pad changes this water was Minging!!
I went back today and the carpet looks great and customer well happy ;D
Paul
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Hello people,
Ive been using charlie pads for about 6mths now ive had indifferent results depending on the carpet and or Soiling. My main contract with them is over 1000m2 on a low profile synthetic pile carpet in flats so they get plenty of wear i pre vac pre spray HD no2 and ring my pad out and go, the results have been better than HWE and the carpets seem to be staying cleaner for longer.
They make me more money in a quicker time so i cant say anything bad about them ;)....................Allthough on different types of carpets they just dont work. i have had problems with chinese which i have posted about before also on social club carpets (100% wool) and shop carpets which diddnt do anything then :P again neither did HWE >:(
But i am a big believer in Nick at Solutions and i am impressed with all of their products and cleaning techniques and even though i moan at him from time to time he is allways curtious and endevours to solve my problems, i admit some of them are my own fault ::)
Anyway if you havent tried them then have a go you will make more than your money back and the longer you use them the more you will find which situations they work and which they dont.
Regards Nick Holman ;)