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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: darren_metcalfe on June 13, 2007, 08:12:07 am

Title: Hydrogen Peroxide etc
Post by: darren_metcalfe on June 13, 2007, 08:12:07 am
Hiya,

Quick question I understand that Hydrogen Peroxide is accelerated with Ammonia and Sodium Metabisulphite with Acetic Acid. 

My question is in the real world of stain removal what is the process of applying the accelerators to the stains.  i.e. do you apply the Hydrogen P and then add the Ammonia ore apply the hydrogen p, rinse then apply Ammonia.  The later does not seem right to me.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Darren
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide etc
Post by: darren_metcalfe on June 13, 2007, 04:18:04 pm
Any help with this please
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide etc
Post by: John Kelly on June 13, 2007, 05:41:11 pm
Darren, the best accelerator for Hydrogen Peroxide is heat. Either a hot steam iron applied through a wet terry towel or better a hair dryer.
You can mix it with Ammonia but you need to be careful. If the concentration of Peroxide is too high you can get a lot of uncontrollable heat generated. Also Ammonia can Yellow Wool.
Not sure about using Acetic with Sodium Metabisulphite but again this can be accelerated by using a hot steam iron over a "wet" not damp terry towel.
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide etc
Post by: ColinFitch on June 13, 2007, 07:11:42 pm
Hi Darren,

You are right in your way of thinking.

colin
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide etc
Post by: Derek on June 13, 2007, 07:15:01 pm
Hey Colin

I see you have been eating too many sticky buns and drinking too much cappacino again sunshine  ;)

About time you started cleaning a few 'real' carpets!

Cheers
Title: Re: Hydrogen Peroxide etc
Post by: Graeme@Access on June 14, 2007, 05:30:58 pm
Hi,

Acellarators / catalysts chemically change the bleach you are using.  Basically, you form some new more powerful bleach and therefore you should premix the solutions in appropriate quantities.  How much you use depends on concentration of stock solutions and often depends on pH.

As a rule you want to make a solution of peroxide pH > 7 and sulfates/ites <7.

Beware of playing with reducing bleaches though as they are tricky/nasty/smelly and hard to control.

Graeme
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