Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: NWH on May 17, 2007, 10:22:56 pm
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I`ve just got off the phone to a bloke that`s selling just that,he tells me that it generates £24,000 a year and only takes him about 3 hours per day 6 days a week.I know it`s good work but i find this type of work often flits from wc to wc usually when a new manager is put in and is not garenteed.What`s everyone think of the price.
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Sounds like he's selling for 10 times the monthly earnings. And when you brake it down it only £25/hr and thats for 6 days a week commitment as well. The thought of working most of a year before you can break even is ridiculous. That's what I think.
Bed now full day tomorrow.
Simon.
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if this work was gareteed it could be a good investment esp if u have young sons or come to that daughters to take it over . just go into ur local corner shop n u will see what the crack is .if u got the cash . be quick . cos this .work is hard to pick up .once gone .its gone all the best tacky
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what is his name nwh, and where is it?
is it brian wright
oh i have a question about them flats you have in eg, still want to sell them,can i have your number again please
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Jees is it me or are all these posts in broken English ::) ::) ::)
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If it were in my area i would buy it.
I would analyse the work first i.e just look at 10 totally random shops.
Then I would try to negotiate, maybe shove hard cash under his nose.
Dave
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Hi ,
where abouts is the work & are you taking it ?
If it was me i would take it.
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I've never done shops, but I hate the thought of them. 6 days a week, what if you're sick or go on holiday or have a one-off job to do out of town, you have to get someone to cover, what a pain!.
£24,000 a year for 3 hours a day works out at only about £26 an hour, not terrible but not great either. My houses pay more than that without the inconvenience of being tied down to a job every day including saturday. Cant imagine anything worse, but if you dont mind it then thats ok
Mike
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20K for 24K's worth of work PER ANNUM.
No way. I'd pay no more than 6K; tops.
If you've got a spare 20K, stick it down as a deposit on a flat or a house and let it out!
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After speaking to him last night i wasn`t interested,after he told me the income i took the conversation no further.It took him a while to get to the amount that it was worth i thought he was going to say it generated between 50-60k a year he must be charging a couple of quid a shop,i had in mind to put someone on the job 3-4 days a week but for 20k he`s asking to much don`t you think.
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You could buy 10k of domestic for that (20k) , put a couple of guys on it at say 70% make 3K a month
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NWH
What area was it ?
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Hastings.
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its not worth more than 3500.00 thats 7 times weekly earnings generated , there s are no guarantee there. will always be some mug who would pay but i ve cleaned shops for more than 15 years there not worth it. they are disloyal
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It does sound pretty expensive, but there are more to shops than meet the eye.
You can be out very early in the morning, spend three hours doing shops then by 10.30am you can move on to your domestic work.
24k per year for 3 hours work a day is bloody good money, their ain't many out there earning that doing domestics all day long.
Who is to say you can't change the work around?
Who is to say you have to work 3 hours on a saturday?
I've no doubt that whoever has that work could easily cram more of it into a single day if they wanted too, and I'll bet there are only one or two shops (if any at all in fact) that HAVE to be done on a Saturday.
Shops are guaranteed work, come rain or shine.
And most are very loyal to their window cleaner too, you get a natural ebb and flow, you lose a couple here, you pick up a couple there.
I've still got some of my original shops from 23 years ago, hows that for loyalty?
AS David says, check it out more carefully, this kind of work, particularly if it is of long standing is way more valuable than domestic work, it's bloody hard to get even a tiny foothold with shops and other commercial work unless you buy in.
It might be expensive, but if I had the wonga I'd pay that for it.
After I had looked at it very carefully that is....
A big investment, so it needs looking at in very geat detail.
Ian
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Hi ian,your customers are loyal to you like his are to him,but who`s to say that they would be loyal to me?.After a few months 50% of them might fancy a change round,like tony said shops in general are disloyal don`t you think.
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For 24K's worth of work per annum for 20K, it's going to take about 10 months of work before you make a profit.
No way.
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For 24K's worth of work per annum for 20K, it's going to take about 10 months of work before you make a profit.
No way.
too pricey for me aswell
20 K is a lot of money and you will not see anything back for allmost 1 year
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Exactly,after working that round for a year only then are you into profit.I think the blokes in love with it because he`s done it for 25yrs,but that dosen`t make it worth 20k.And also it`s only 3hrs work 2-3 days a week the rest of the week it`s about 5.5hrs work.
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To me it would be worth its weight in gold
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For me to give it that many hours a week it wouldn`t be worth it for me,i would be losing money else where.
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To me it would be worth its weight in gold
Why?
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Tosh
On 3 mornings a week i am sat about doing nothing waiting until 9.00 to do my domestics .
Now if i had an extra £24000 of shops i would be out of the door at 6.00am and i would have about £100 in my pocket before most window cleaners are even out of bed.
just think about it £24k of extra work that will not interfere with your existing work, to me that is a no brainer.
I would build up a good rapport with the customers then after 12 months i would band them up 25% , shops are usually underpriced and there is always room for improvement in the pricing thats, why my pre 9.00 am work works out nearly double my domestic hourly rate.
I agree with Ian , shops are just as loyal as domestics, I havent seen some of my shop customers for years, i normally do them before they are open and just post them an invoice once a month.
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I know what your saying Dave but you`ve got to do it for a year to get your money back,and then you`ve got to do it for another year to make what you paid for it in profit.It would be better if you had someone to do it for you for a few days and then do it yourself for a couple of days.
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NWH
go buy a restaurant etc , you will work for 5 years before you saw a penny on your investment
Dave
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Just a question, have you tried canvassing any shops yourself ? I have and its all but impossible to gain a foothold.Window cleaners round here that do shops don't do domestic and rounds pass down through the family. Its all very tightly sewn up.
The price seems steep but round here it would never get offered on the open market.
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Another point to bear in mind is that you are not really SPENDING the money you are actually INVESTING it. As long as you dont mess up the round will always be worth the same when you come to sell it.
So in reality you have not worked 10 months for nothing, all you are going to lose is the interest on the money you have borrowed, but that will be tax deductable.
Dave
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Hi
£20.000 can buy you a lot of leafets, with 20 leaflets you may get one job, you charge £10, that`s more work than you can do by yourself. think very hard before you spend that amount of money, it`s easy to spend but hard to make.
Michael D
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Quiet right,i`m not saying it`s not an investment i`m only saying it`s a lot of money for goodwill.We all know how funny shops can be.