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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: TennetClean on May 12, 2007, 11:24:22 am

Title: Training
Post by: TennetClean on May 12, 2007, 11:24:22 am
Right, I've seen a few posts on here about training and the like, and I'm thinking its the right thing to do.

I've been window cleaning for years now, but I think its time to "GO UP A GEAR" in a business kind of a way.  I just kind of taught myself how to do it, (with a bit of help from a mate).  I use wfp, somebody I know builds (or used to build) systems, and the one I've got now is good but not its really big enough, though it has served me well.  Also the van its in is on the last legs, so if I'm gonna take it all a bit more seriously I'll probly get sorted out with a new(er) van and some kind of bigger system.

So, anyway, what is this BWCA course, and is it the same thing as the wfp training academy (think I saw a link t that somewhere).  I like the idea of having some proper knowledge and stuff, and few "qualifications" (if you can call them that) might come in handy to wave under the nose of the odd pub landlord or nursing home matron etc ...

What do you guys think???

Mike
Title: Re: Training
Post by: TennetClean on May 12, 2007, 11:35:36 pm
So has nobody on here done any of these courses then?
Title: Re: Training
Post by: jeff1 on May 13, 2007, 12:05:09 am
I think the federation of master window cleaners do courses for wfp, the training academy is another forum but with video's and photo's along with other wfp topics
Title: Re: Training
Post by: TennetClean on May 13, 2007, 12:13:49 am
Thanks Jeff.  I have had a look at the federation of window cleaners website, and they do a health and safety and employment law course, which is not exactly what I had in mind.

There is a page about courses with the mysterious bwca on the federation window cleaners's website, but I'd guess you need to be a member to get on them (which I'm not)
Title: Re: Training
Post by: NWH on May 13, 2007, 12:17:59 am
You don`t have to be a member.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: jeff1 on May 13, 2007, 12:23:04 am
Thanks Jeff.  I have had a look at the federation of window cleaners website, and they do a health and safety and employment law course, which is not exactly what I had in mind.

There is a page about courses with the mysterious bwca on the federation window cleaners's website, but I'd guess you need to be a member to get on them (which I'm not)
As I say I'm not 100% sure but I think there are a few companys that do wfp training courses and you don't need to be a member.
Maybe tomorrow someone can answer your question better than I can.
As I say not sure, but I think Andrew MaCann of pure freedom will give you a day out with his own guy's and they will teach you the ropes so to speak. give him a call he's a nice guy to speak to. 01472 347519
Also you could Give Alex Gardiner a call he may also do the same give Kirsty a call on 01726 61143 during office hours of 9 am - 5 pm or ask Alex directly on here.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Rob.Hall on May 13, 2007, 09:23:21 am
Hi,
www.bwca.co.uk
info@bwca.co.uk
Tel 08452266034
I have prospectus. They do a one day course..£95 + vat. It covers all you need to know but most of it you may be convercent with already. Cert provided on finish of course.
They have other courses all of which go to an NVQ.
Some look interesting.
All the best
Rob
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 13, 2007, 09:38:02 am
I can't say too much just yet as we are still in the final throw's of confirming dates etc but The Association Of Professional Window Cleaners is just about to launch a full 6 module training course that will cover everything you need from basic cleaning up to Cradle and rope access.

The beauty of this is that you can pick which modules you need and attend what you feel will be the most benefit.

This is being held and conducted by a certified H&S company that is experienced withing the Cleaning Industry. It is not sponsored by ANY manufacturer and completely independant.

Like I said, dates will be announced shortly but it will be sooner rather than later!
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Rob.Hall on May 13, 2007, 09:49:52 am
Will the APWC course be recognised by a governing body.
Do you do other courses?
Thanks
Rob
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 13, 2007, 09:57:28 am
Hi Rob,

Yes the course is recognised and certified by the Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH).

The courses we are looking into will be publicised very soon.

If you want a particular course let us know, if we can generate enough interest we will try to organise one for you.

Regards,

Trevor
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Rob.Hall on May 13, 2007, 10:04:58 am
Do you have a prospectus on your courses or @ contact for further info.
where do you base yourselves.
Cheers
Rob
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 13, 2007, 10:08:54 am
Hi Rob,

To register your interest and to receive the course details as and when we publicise them please email me:

  trevor.knight@apwc.info

Best wishes,

Trevor
Title: Re: Training
Post by: gary evans on May 13, 2007, 10:22:07 am
Trevor

I would be interested in  these course for myself & staff. Any more info would be appreciated. We have done bwca, iosh through fed & also management h&s through outside h&s company. But feel this is the path for commercial & would be looking for moe courses as looking to apply for chas asap.

Thanks Gary
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 13, 2007, 10:22:30 am
Hi Rob,

To register your interest and to receive the course details as and when we publicise them please email me:

Trevor.knight@apwc.info

Best wishes,

Trevor

Hi Trevor.

The email link doesn't work properly if you capitalise your first name.  The link starts from the k in knight .
I've sent emails to knight@...  and to trevor.knight@...
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Trevor Knight on May 13, 2007, 10:23:17 am
Thanks Shiner,

Have changed it!

Cheers,

Trev
Title: Re: Training
Post by: TennetClean on May 13, 2007, 10:34:04 am
Hi Trevor,

How much will these courses cost and when will they be ready?  Do I have to be a member of the apwc to go on them?  (No offense but I'm not interested in joining an association.)

Rob, thanks for the info, now I have seen the bwca website I know what I'm looking at!  I like the sound of the waterfed pole and marketing courses.  Only going to do one for starters though.

Mike
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Rob.Hall on May 13, 2007, 10:38:37 am
Pleasure Mike.
Sunny days are on the way again  8)
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 13, 2007, 11:27:19 am
Thanks Shiner,

Have changed it!

Cheers,

Trev

Just as well I mentioned it.  I notice that the "knight" email bounced.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 13, 2007, 12:51:29 pm
Mike

Prices have not been confirmed yet , but i expect they will be in line with most other courses available.

In answer to your other question, NO you dont have to be a member of the APWC to attend the course.

Dave
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 13, 2007, 01:37:00 pm
Mike

Prices have not been confirmed yet , but i expect they will be in line with most other courses available.

In answer to your other question, NO you dont have to be a member of the APWC to attend the course.

Dave

Is it intended to bea two tier pricing system where APWC members get a discount?
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 13, 2007, 02:26:05 pm
Shiner

We have not really had a look at the pricing structure as of yet (too busy sorting out the content).

Dave
Title: Re: Training
Post by: TennetClean on May 13, 2007, 07:18:09 pm
Right, thanks for your help all.  I've bitten the bullet and booked!

I'm doing the wfp one.  I'll let you no how I get on when I do it.

Mike