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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: leee on May 10, 2007, 08:35:24 pm

Title: no help is offered
Post by: leee on May 10, 2007, 08:35:24 pm
it annoys me that no mateer where you go if you start a post about help needed on trad cleaning you dnt get it as sum wise crack just says get a wfp sum of us are not lazy and dnt have the money to go wfp and enjoy cleaning trad so if you cant help dnt reply to a post that dosnt require your help
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: matt on May 10, 2007, 08:46:13 pm
get a wfp ;)
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Chris Cottrell on May 10, 2007, 08:47:22 pm
get a wfp ;)

LOL
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Chris Cottrell on May 10, 2007, 08:48:35 pm
That was mean of me

What seems to be the problem sir
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: gordons on May 10, 2007, 08:48:55 pm
I have a funny feeling the ones on here who think they are smart and wide will go out of business then who will be laughing
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on May 10, 2007, 08:49:35 pm
Yeah Hit us with yer prob and it will be sorted before 9pm.

Bod
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 10, 2007, 08:54:58 pm
it annoys me that no mateer where you go if you start a post about help needed on trad cleaning you dnt get it as sum wise crack just says get a wfp sum of us are not lazy  and dnt have the money to go wfp and enjoy cleaning trad so if you cant help dnt reply to a post that dosnt require your help

Nice start, Leee (with three e's) - let's start by alienating those that we are asking advice from by implying that they are lazy if they use wfp!

Anyway, as Chris says - how can we help?
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 10, 2007, 09:07:51 pm
it annoys me that no mateer where you go if you start a post about help needed on trad cleaning you dnt get it as sum wise crack just says get a wfp sum of us are not lazy and dnt have the money to go wfp and enjoy cleaning trad so if you cant help dnt reply to a post that dosnt require your help

It would be helpful if you included the nature of the trad problem in your post.  Maybe post again stating what the trad problem is?
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 10, 2007, 09:17:36 pm
Nice start, Leee (with three e's) - let's start by alienating those that we are asking advice from by implying that they are lazy if they use wfp!

Anyway, as Chris says - how can we help?
He's got me sussed.

I'm a lazy git, that's why I like wfp'ing. ;D
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Chris Cottrell on May 10, 2007, 09:19:40 pm
squeaky be quiet youre a lazy git
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on May 10, 2007, 09:23:34 pm
Chris.

     Where do you buy your resin from?

Bod
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: LWC on May 10, 2007, 09:24:43 pm
lazy...and wfp?

no not at all! far from it some days, luggin around a trolley and 25 litre barrels!

someone was walking past me the other day and said "that the lazy way of doing it" i said come here and have a go...he almost fell over backwards

so for that comment on lazyness...you defo need wfp  :P
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Jon T.C. on May 10, 2007, 09:25:12 pm
squeaky be quiet youre a lazy git

lmao ;D
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Majestic on May 10, 2007, 09:28:44 pm
Here you go 3 questions  asked by Leee

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hi guys

how do you guys store all you equipment in your van / car ? mine seems to get thrown all over the place .

Any pics would be greatfully recieved

many thanks

Leee

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hi have been window cleaning for a while have just been asked to quote my first gutter and fascia clean?
its a 2 bed semi  with gutter and fascia on 3 sides also gutter across the front lower down on the porch!
what would you guys charge i need a bit of advice

any help appriciated

thanks
Leee

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hi there

what solution do you use / i use unger liquid

how much do you put in and how much water goes in your bucket im finding im using liquid to fast am i utting to much in or should i use less water ?

cheers

leee
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: marc on May 10, 2007, 09:30:31 pm
may be just may be if you got a wfp system  you would not want to put posts on here about trad cleaning issues , and if you went wfp you would not have time for silly trad posts you would be to BUSY counting all the extra CASH you,d be making , any way i would guess about 80 % w/c s on here are wfp so that what were into now stop being a girl and get your self WFP ok marc
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: steve k on May 10, 2007, 09:42:29 pm
I have a funny feeling the ones on here who think they are smart and wide will go out of business then who will be laughing

not quite sure how you arrive at that conclusion...could you back it up with some facts please... ::)
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: jeff1 on May 10, 2007, 09:47:07 pm
it annoys me that no mateer where you go if you start a post about help needed on trad cleaning you dnt get it as sum wise crack just says get a wfp sum of us are not lazy and dnt have the money to go wfp and enjoy cleaning trad so if you cant help dnt reply to a post that dosnt require your help
The trouble is Leee,  
most of the guy's who do answer trad questions, are wfp users and have experience in trad cleaning, and most of them many many years.

You do get a lot of banter from the guy's, but its all in fun, probably because they do work hard and like to let of steam, so don't attack them and you won't initiate responses like you have. ;)

I have a funny feeling the ones on here who think they are smart and wide will go out of business then who will be laughing
Read the post above, as most of us smart ar**es have been in business for years starting as trad cleaners and then onto wfp.



Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Chris Cottrell on May 10, 2007, 09:48:59 pm
Chris.

     Where do you buy your resin from?

Bod

RO MAN but the last lot seems rubbish 750ml only lasted 1000l so far and is up on tds already
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: leee on May 10, 2007, 09:51:13 pm
i apologise for my comments earlier i just hate it when trad posts are strated and they end up being turned into wfp . didnt mean to attack or offend anybody and again i apologise that my profesionalism let me down !
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Majestic on May 10, 2007, 09:51:40 pm
I got my last resin from Chic Cleaning

http://www.reachandclean.co.uk/



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LOW PRICE !

Rohm and Haas virgin DI resin for £61
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: jeff1 on May 10, 2007, 10:00:48 pm
i apologise for my comments earlier i just hate it when trad posts are strated and they end up being turned into wfp . didnt mean to attack or offend anybody and again i apologise that my profesionalism let me down !
Now that take a man and a professional, welcome to the forum, but don't forget you will always get the wfp point thrown in to any trad topics, many of us had the same thing happen when we were trad W/C. ;)
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: JM123 on May 10, 2007, 10:34:54 pm
leee whats seems to be the problem? 
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: matt on May 10, 2007, 10:42:15 pm
I have a funny feeling the ones on here who think they are smart and wide will go out of business then who will be laughing

How does everyone feel about window cleaners moving in on their area and under cutting them to steal their customers. I personally feel that this is ok, would understand someone doing it to me and would have no problem doing it to anyone as i feel that is only fair in business and should be expected.

well if we go by your rules and we all undercut each other, most of us will be out of business, or we might be cleaning houses for 5 quid a pop  ::) ::) and the customer will be the only 1's laughing
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Jon T.C. on May 10, 2007, 11:18:49 pm
Well said Matt !
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: chrismroberts on May 10, 2007, 11:29:55 pm
Here you go 3 questions  asked by Leee

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hi guys

how do you guys store all you equipment in your van / car ? mine seems to get thrown all over the place .

Any pics would be greatfully recieved

many thanks

Leee

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hi have been window cleaning for a while have just been asked to quote my first gutter and fascia clean?
its a 2 bed semi  with gutter and fascia on 3 sides also gutter across the front lower down on the porch!
what would you guys charge i need a bit of advice

any help appriciated

thanks
Leee


Hi Leee,

This may not be what you're looking for, and I don't know if you use a car or van but I use a car and wedge my bucket in the rear drivers side footwell so that it doesn't spill. I also put a bin liner on the floor so if it overspills it doesn't soak my mats! All my scrims + pockets + sill cloths just go on the back seat.

I really dislike gutter and fascia cleaning so tend to price it high, but haven't been refused as yet. If they just want the soffits + fascias cleaning I'll charge about £2-£2.50 a meter and pace out the distance roughly. If they're after the gutters clearing aswell I'll add another quid onto that. For bungalows maybe £1-£1.50 a meter.

Hope this helps...

Chris
Title: Re: no help is offered
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 11, 2007, 06:36:42 am
Here you go 3 questions  asked by Leee

Quote
hi guys

how do you guys store all you equipment in your van / car ? mine seems to get thrown all over the place .

Any pics would be greatfully recieved

many thanks

Leee

Quote
hi have been window cleaning for a while have just been asked to quote my first gutter and fascia clean?
its a 2 bed semi  with gutter and fascia on 3 sides also gutter across the front lower down on the porch!
what would you guys charge i need a bit of advice

any help appriciated

thanks
Leee

Quote
hi there

what solution do you use / i use unger liquid

how much do you put in and how much water goes in your bucket im finding im using liquid to fast am i utting to much in or should i use less water ?

cheers

leee

Well the only question that gives a clue about whether he uses trad or WFP is the last one.  Even then it's not conclusive because I use a bucket and detergent on some jobs even though I use WFP as my main method.

So, going by memory from when I was trad cleaning my answers are as follows:-

1. Storing equipment.
The bucket and hand tools I used to put in the passenger footwell.  I used a rectangular bucket so it wouldn't fall over.  I kept the water level quite low so that it wouldn't slop about.  You can lay a scrim on top of the water to help prevent this too.  In the back (I had a van) I laid a carpet piece on the floor to help prevent sliding.  I used plastic containers for various bits and pieces to make it easier for things not to get mixed up with each other.

2. Gutter cleaning
 It depends on how accessible the gutter/facia is.  I never really charged enough for these anyway.  Make sure you have a thick plastic sack so that the gutter rubbish won't leak through (double bag it if necessary).  I avoid these jobs now but the meter charging mentioned before looks OK.

3.  Detergent.
I think Fairy Liquid is the best if you've no intention of using WFP on the glass in the near future.  It has pleanty of slip - unlike some of the other detergents.  Don't use to much though or you may leave smears.