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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Sir Squeaky on May 03, 2007, 04:02:15 pm

Title: Swollen hose.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 03, 2007, 04:02:15 pm
Don't laugh, it's painful.

The clear hose to the brush from the connection with the microbore to the inline tap has swelled to twice it's size.

I guess this has happened because I've turned down the flow a bit, and there's pressure building up behind the tap.

Will it pop completely?
It looks like it's going to play me up soon.

I'm doing well at the moment too. :-\
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on May 03, 2007, 04:21:52 pm
Glad to hear it's going better.

Yep I guess it would.  Can you move the control valve along the hose a bit and remove the offending section.

I'm sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong but if you are restricting the flow rather than stopping it then you are going to burn out the pressure switch on the pump.

Simon.

Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: pjulk on May 03, 2007, 05:11:20 pm
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I guess this has happened because I've turned down the flow a bit, and there's pressure building up behind the tap.

I take it you adjusted the screw on your pump or do you have a varistream.

If it was the screw on the pump have you turned it the right way.

I have never had that myself but if you have touched the screw on the pump i think you may have turned the pressure up.

But there again i might be completely wrong and it could be a weak section of hose.

I broke my minibore yesterday ???
It rubbed on a jubilee clip on my hose reel and pierced a hole.

Good job B&Q had 8mm poly tubing connectors in so i managed to fix it otherwise i would have been about 30 mtrs short

Paul
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2007, 05:19:21 pm
Hi Squeaky,

Until you fit your new pump, you need to undo the adjustment screw slightly, this will reduce the pressure at which the pump switches off, thereby reducing the excess pressure on your clear hose.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 03, 2007, 05:33:56 pm
Is it too late now the hose is bigger? :-\
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Davew on May 03, 2007, 06:03:32 pm
I've got a very large girth  ;D
Mine's the same blew the olive off today at the control valve. Would just turning the varistream down on the main numpty cure this? The pipe is now very soft and flexible looks like I'll be ordering a new roll anytime. Can't find a re-enforced variety of that bore so looks like I'll have to buy the same again.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Davew on May 03, 2007, 06:30:17 pm
Alex, what if the micro bore was connected to the control valve directly would this not solve the problem?
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on May 03, 2007, 06:31:08 pm
Davew

Turn the blue dial down on the inside of the varistream.

Simon.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Davew on May 03, 2007, 06:57:20 pm
Yeah I know what your saying, I had to turn mine up to get enough flow and it has been fine all through the colder weather. I'd like to keep the pressure up if possible. If I could eliminate the clear pipe between the microbore and valve things would be better. Trouble is I have Gardiner hozetail ends which are femail and I have another valve knocking around but is not compatable. Mmmm Wintecs do a 6mm id - 10mm od hose so I wonder if that is more resistant to bulging?
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2007, 09:38:38 pm
Hi Squeaky,

If it has expanded past the point of no return then yes it probably is too late. You will need some more hose, an olive and an insert for the valve side.

Davew,

some have fitted microbore from the connection to the valve. To make the microbore fit the valve you can 'pare' down the outer layer with a sharp knife as it is too big to fit. The other solution is to fit a valve at the end of the microbore and then simply have  the pole hose with no valve. We can provide a fitting that has a microbore hose barb on one end (to fit the microbore) and a female EZ-Snap on the other to plug the pole into.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Jason Atwell on May 03, 2007, 09:45:32 pm
Squeeky, how do you sleep at night with all these problems, not like the old days eh?

It seems what most people said was right, you will have probs for a few months where you learn all the ins and outs, then you will be flying!!

Good luck, i will be following your example when i can afford to!

oh, is the shoulder better with less trad!
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 03, 2007, 09:51:36 pm
Certainly less hard work on my arm and shoulder now thanks Jase.

This system is a pain, but when it works (and the customer takes to it) it's great.

About the problem...
As the hose is rather "inflated", I though I'd lop a couple of feet of hose off the other side (as there's yards of it), and use that.

Shouldn't be such a problem in future with the 60psi pump I'm trying now.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Davew on May 03, 2007, 09:52:00 pm
Alex, I worked that out too but then I would be winding my hose in with a whopping great valve on the end and I don't fancy that much. With your fittings I have a short piece of cycle inner tupe to protect the connector whilst it whizzes back to my coil. It's new pipe for me then (just ordered) ;)
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Davew on May 03, 2007, 09:53:44 pm
Squeak don't lop it off unless you have a spare olive.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 04, 2007, 12:05:57 am
Olive? ???

Would a grape work?
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: pjulk on May 04, 2007, 12:10:30 am
If you don't have any nip down to B&Q or something similar and get a pack of 10mm olives should only cost a quid or so.

Paul
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: macmac on May 04, 2007, 12:12:33 am
are these brass olives, as in plumbing compression fittings?

tony
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: macmac on May 04, 2007, 12:36:32 am
or why not fit a john guest push-fit flow control valve, lighter, demountable & no olives ;)

tony
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Davew on May 04, 2007, 04:24:33 pm
Yep the ten mill plumbing ones. I think Squeek has a Gardiners set up so will need new ones when he lops the pipe off.
Title: Re: Swollen hose.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on May 04, 2007, 04:39:39 pm
I was talking to a plumber today and he reckoned it won't need olives.

What a stupid name for a plumbing part.
I keep thinking of Popeye or On the Buses. ;D