Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Majestic on May 01, 2007, 05:24:30 pm
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Went to price a job yesterday, a nice block of flats once a month £120 .
Phoned them with my quote they were ok with it, then I told them there was 1 window that I could not get to . It was 3 floors up on a roof, no way was I going on the roof to get to it . I dont think they even knew about it . Anyway they told me that another window cleaner had been given the job as he would clean that window as well .
My reply was ok then let him.
So much for H&S
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Well let him fall off best left alone mate prob one of them fly by window cleaners who comes out for the summer :D
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I would say, are you aware of your duty regarding employing contractors!
I would say I am full aware and will be reporting this to the HSE
Its time we fight back and get theses cowboys out of our Industry
Andy
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specially the ones who use waterfed pole systems out the back of there family cars lmao and have no sort of insurances really winds me up. but then again ive found the more perfessional you are the better price the customer will pay..
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well said Poleman >:(
you can almost read the head lines
WINDOW CLEANER DIES
look out for the posting later!!!!! time to fight back
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P&R
There are quite a few of the lads on here who use wfp out the back of their family car, as they cannot or choose not run to the expense of a van. This also doesn't mean that they are not insured properly.Professionalism, is not dictated by how smart your uniform is or how new your van is, it is dictated by your attitude and the way you conduct yourself and your business.
regards Jon
BTW. I wear uniform and have a sign-written van -mount set up.
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John,
Could you post a pic of the job, so everyone can get a better understanding of the situation of this flat roof. One persons opinion of a job, doesn't mean it's un-safe, just that ,that person in their opinion deems it un-safe.
I'm not having a go John, just offering another slant on it.
Kind regards Jon
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Jon to be classed as a safe contractor did you do a course and if so where do you have to go and how long is the course.
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No, you ring Safecontractor, they send you out a questionaire to be filled in and returned with any supporting documents required. An auditor then goes through it, if everything is OK , you get accredited, if not they will ask you to re-submit the information or further information. You then get audited every year.
Regards Jon
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specially the ones who use waterfed pole systems out the back of there family cars lmao and have no sort of insurances really winds me up. but then again ive found the more perfessional you are the better price the customer will pay..
::) ::) oh dear
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P&R
There are quite a few of the lads on here who use wfp out the back of their family car, as they cannot or choose not run to the expense of a van. This also doesn't mean that they are not insured properly.Professionalism, is not dictated by how smart your uniform is or how new your van is, it is dictated by your attitude and the way you conduct yourself and your business.
regards Jon
BTW. I wear uniform and have a sign-written van -mount set up.
sure they are jon im talking about the odd few out there that come and go
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P&R
There are quite a few of the lads on here who use wfp out the back of their family car, as they cannot or choose not run to the expense of a van. This also doesn't mean that they are not insured properly.Professionalism, is not dictated by how smart your uniform is or how new your van is, it is dictated by your attitude and the way you conduct yourself and your business.
regards Jon
BTW. I wear uniform and have a sign-written van -mount set up.
sure they are jon im talking about the odd few out there that come and go
you made a sweeping statement condemming all window cleaners who use cars instead of a van ::) , i use a estate car ( its not my family car, thats a new golf ) Im insured with PL insurance and i have even been known to pay tax and NI ::)
Ive seen a guy in a van driving whilst on the mobile phone, does that mean all van drivers are unsafe and idiots ?? ? ?
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Jon TC
Next time I am in the area I will take a couple of photos
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well yeah they wanna drive and talk then yeah there idiots.
When i made the statment i was talking about the ones with no insurance and pay no tax mate so no need to wory if your not in that bracket
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Jon TC
Next time I am in the area I will take a couple of photos
Personally, from following your posts, I would probably lay money, and say that your instinct is good on these matters.However , it would be interesting to read other peoples perception of this job.
Kind regards
Jon
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well yeah they wanna drive and talk then yeah there idiots.
When i made the statment i was talking about the ones with no insurance and pay no tax mate so no need to wory if your not in that bracket
So people who dodge tax can't drive a van? ::)
I drive a brand new van, and I was ripped off so much by IR last time, I won't be paying much this time.
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How's the NEW van going Squeaks? Still in love with it? I hope your looking after it! ;)
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why do you think that people who run wfp from family cars have no insurance, have you any evidence for this?
Or was that just a uneducated and small minded generalisation?
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John, you should of just sent jason up, then again, he could get lost up there, or need the toilet! ;) ;D
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How's the NEW van going Squeaks? Still in love with it? I hope your looking after it! ;)
Yep, kept clean and tidy.
I really like it.
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Went to price a job yesterday, a nice block of flats once a month £120 .
Phoned them with my quote they were ok with it, then I told them there was 1 window that I could not get to . It was 3 floors up on a roof, no way was I going on the roof to get to it . I dont think they even knew about it . Anyway they told me that another window cleaner had been given the job as he would clean that window as well .
My reply was ok then let him.
So much for H&S
I wouldn't have mention the 'one' window until they did :-X
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Thats my problem too honest
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I worked out of the back of a car for more years than I care to remember, first with ladders and then with WFP, and it matters not a whit whether you have a van or a car, you can still be driving around without insurance in either vehicle.
And even if you don't have insurance, that certainly doesn't make you a cowboy, it's worth bearing in mind that public liability ISN'T a legal requirement, unlike employers liability which is.
Whoever is the guy who will clean the window up on the roof may well only be some young chap who isn't fully aware of H & S, or even one who thinks it a fuss about nothing.
Just 3 years ago I'd have thought nothing of doing a job like that, I wouldn't dream of it now of course.
There is another window cleaner in the Chepstow area that doesn't have a computer, thinks WFP is crap and happily works at the top of his (at one point) very rickety ladder.
I can't stand the guy, have no time for him whatsoever, but he isn't a cowboy and he has been going as long as I have.
Providing this chap had a ladder long enough, I've no doubt he would do this job like a shot.....
Mind you, as I can't stand the S.O.A.B I'd probably try at get him reported ;D
Being on this forum has made us all very savvy with regards H & S, but many out there don't have access to a computer or this forum.
Having said that, the company employing him to do the job plainly isn't fully aware of H & S, from their perspective, having someone working off a ladder on their site is foolish, if things went wrong, they would be in the dock too.
Ian