Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: stevegunn on April 26, 2007, 08:18:41 pm
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How much does it cost a customer roughly when you use a bane clean machine?Say your doing carpet and suite?
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Should be the same as whe you use any other machine, it's how you sell your service.
Shaun
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Is this going somewhere Steve ?
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Hi
I think Steve means the cost of the electric.
Dave
PS I dont know!
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Probably the same as a portable, you can only push the fuse box so far and a porty is probably right on the limit.
Didn't someone say it was about 80p an hour, I just tell the customer it's about £5 a minute, use me and it cost nothing!. ;)
Phil
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Dave Ingram pushed his own electric TM futher, it was the same power as a Spitfire 3.2
Shaun
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Your dead right Shaun and it worked out at 3 units an hour at the time back in 2000 2001 that would have been 22p an hour ;D
If only I could run my petrol machine for the same costs today :'(
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Dave, is it too late to ring you?
Phil
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Monday was the cut off piont phil :-\
only kidding
Speak to you in the morning mate ;)
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Ok.
Phil
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Doesn't matter what the electric is because it's not your cost!
Shaun
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Is this going somewhere Steve ?
Just curious local guy to me has one and he told me his bane is more powerful than the prowler today::) He reckons it cost customer 20p for the two hours he was than in electricity which I thought was a bit of a porky
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I've had 2 banes and no way are they even put together as powerful as a Prowler, and then there's the psi and heat. tell him he's a dummer!
Shaun
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Is the prowler really that good...................it's the concept that I always dreamed of but just arrived a little late for me, but I really love the concept.
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A brand new bane is about £10,000 + vat
A brand new prowler is £5999 + vat
;)
And I think that the Bane probaby weighs more :o
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The prowler looks impressive, the only thing that bothers me is the 24 blower. No other machine uses that size which makes me wonder if it is big enough. Also on the Dresser roots website they seem to be saying that the airflow for that size blower is low.
I guess the answer is to arrange a demo with Mr. Kelly and see for myself, aswell as prizing as much out of folks who already have one.
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yes the blowers smaller but it runs faster rember unlike any other machine this blower is water cooled and if it run dry is fine as there is no load on it.
theres a 12mth warrenty from roots ( the makers) , and the prowler has no recovery tank so try one, it has more suck than a sucky thing in sucky land!
p.s i test them for john so know a bit about them.
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Is this going somewhere Steve ?
Just curious local guy to me has one and he told me his bane is more powerful than the prowler today::) He reckons it cost customer 20p for the two hours he was than in electricity which I thought was a bit of a porky
yes met him as well he has the same type of van we use!
although he's got one 1.9d we have three 2.5tdi's
tells me that a\fter 3 years ( registraions plates don't lie) that he will be getting his van lined out with a better system than ours, also he reckon ikea do the best van racking
think if he had stayed a bit longer elvis was doing a comeback gig at the arena and he had tickets!
only spoke to him as oppo said there a doggy looking f***ker sinfing abvout the van.
as for 20p hour ( never belive a salesman) you can't boil a kettle for that
we have all had someone like that in our lives, I remeber a kid at school who could always get it cheaper and better than you, call his bluff ask him to clean your house on a meter and if he used 20p in a hour you pay any more and you won't . Ii'll lend you a plug in instant readout meter
Your twice the cleaner he is, and probably have twice the power
do the math you have 13hp and on single phase domestic supply anything unregulated over 1hp starts to blow fuses.
either he's full of it or he's changed the laws of physics.
p.s have you turned the temprature down or are you still steamy steve
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p.s have you turned the temprature down or are you still steamy steve
I didnt think you two boys were like that ;)
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On the cost of leccy - I run a Ninja, and do a lot of holiday lets on card meters. When leccy runs out I push the emergency button, so I get to see exactly what the charges are! The Ninja with vac booster on, at max temp using cold water on autofil uses about 44 - 54p/hr in leccy on expensive (card meter rate) tarrifs. ( up to 60p/hr if warming full tank of cold water)
So if custy moans about 3 power cords, I tell 'em I can take one cord off, use less leccy, take longer to do job - leccy is cheaper than me, and job not as good!
Anyone out there running a TM for 60p/hr? ;D
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Go on then Paul how much per hour for a Prowler to run?
My TM about £2.50- 3 an hour.
I'll know if Steve is fibbing to me when I hear your answer.
Shaun
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Anyone out there running a TM for 60p/hr? ;D
No, but while your still at the customers house emptying/filling your machine and probably just about making your way down the stairs I'm either at my next job or at home watching the Snooker! :P :P
Phil
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Fair point Phil, but I got the missus to set up while I chat to custy, empty for me when I stop for a cuppa - who wants to work non stop?, and I dont need to fill ( the beauty of autofil!). Bet me and the missus can set the Ninja running just as quick as you can your TM! If you're ever in Norfolk I'll race you!
And the custy pays the leccy bill, not me!
Glyn
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Just curious local guy to me has one and he told me his bane is more powerful than the prowler today::) He reckons it cost customer 20p for the two hours he was than in electricity which I thought was a bit of a porky
just check a average price is 10p per kWh
One unit is 1 kilowatt (1000watts) of electricity used for one hour (kWh).
so work on his statement 20p for 2 hours means his machine has a power rating of 1000W ( thats less than a spotting machine) and 3 times less than my kettle
"madam use me my machine is less powerfull than your kettle!" theres a good market line ;)
I'v include the power graph for your machine which at optimum revs and 11hp ( less than enggine maximum which is 13) , produces 8.25kW thats 8250watts, i think he might be interested to know that !
out of interest domestic socket are rated ofr use with a 13 plug so now of the science bit
13a X 240 volts gives you a maximim of 3120watts available ( spining motor creat a current draw so thats a theroritical maximum) so you still have more than twice the power of any electric machine (that does'nt need it own generator, which would be pointless more thing to go wrong)
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Go on then Paul how much per hour for a Prowler to run?
My TM about £2.50- 3 an hour.
I'll know if Steve is fibbing to me when I hear your answer.
Shaun
on a slow week a gallon a day £5 but on a busy day can be up to £10
An extreme 1500sq meter job running full moo without a break and fed directly from water supply approx 12-14 hrs the petrol works out about £15-£20 nearly a whole jerry can, The other TM i had (310) on same job took 2-4 hours longer and used 8-10 galons and always chewed up a pump out impeller ( £75) so am happy with the costs
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Go on then Paul how much per hour for a Prowler to run?
My TM about £2.50- 3 an hour.
I'll know if Steve is fibbing to me when I hear your answer.
Shaun
I'll show you the receipts :P
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you can buy a gas conversion for 130 form edge and run it on gas and or petrol, if you really want to get the cost down don't know anyone who done it yet because it would take a good while to recoup the costs. But with the expected rises I might give it a go just to see whats it like.