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Title: Liquid high heat
Post by: stevegunn on April 18, 2007, 07:59:28 am

Been using liquid high heat with excellent results on the bottle it states its woolsafe but does not bear the woolsafe logo also cannot find it listed on the woolsafe approved product list.Does anyone know whether it has got full woolsafe accreditation?

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: john rees on April 18, 2007, 08:08:14 am

Hi Steve,
              I'm not sure but I've been using it too with great results on wool carpets, Even really trashed pub ones!!! it apparently contains a polymer to protect the carpet from resoiling after cleaning too!
                           all the best
                                            John

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Chris R on April 18, 2007, 08:23:06 am

Its an acid side cleaning agent ( ph 3 to 4) so fine on wool etc.

http://www.chemspec-europe.com/product_range.htm

I use it when ever I need an acidic rinse, or something is scaring me  :o

Works very well, but does seem to leave a residue in the solution pipes and T/M filters. I had a brass QC bung up with it to the extent that water wouldn’t flow through properly.

But used occasionally its fine

regards

Chris

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Mike Halliday on April 19, 2007, 02:14:16 pm

i used this last week, although it is an acid based encapsulation chemical the ready to use solution had a Ph reading of only 6 when I tested it, (which was after rinsing off M/S) so it might not be suitable as a 'acid rinse' alternative

also if you are mixing this in the tank you can't use a hydraforce, with a high PH pre-spray as they will counteract each other.

Mike

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Ken Wainwright on April 19, 2007, 02:58:31 pm

Quote from: mike_halliday on April 19, 2007, 02:14:16 pm

also if you are mixing this in the tank you can't use a hydraforce, with a high PH pre-spray as they will counteract each other.

Not necessarily Mike. It may depend on the buffering of the products, so try it first to see. Obviously, there are other chemistry factors that could also work with or against you.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Mike Halliday on April 19, 2007, 05:57:04 pm

so are you saying the pre-spray would be buffered so would maintain it high Ph even when mixed with an acid solution? this can't be correct otherwise how could that pre-spray be neutralized with an acid rinse when extracting it

to have a buffered pre-spray would be counter-productive.

also on the woolsafe course that i attended ( I think you where on it)julie from Chemspec said high heat wasn't compatible with high Ph pre-sprays

Mike

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Chris R on April 19, 2007, 08:49:04 pm

Hi Mike

this is the info from the chem spec web site

No more need to acid rinse this detergent will neutralise your alkaline pre sprays whilst it cleans.

pH @ use: 3-4

The above text would certainly give the impression that it would neutralise high PH pre sprays, with a " at use " ph of 3 - 4 .

I will have to do a PH test myself ?

Otherwise Chem Spec are giving misleading information ?

I hope that the 100 % wool, pure white carpet, that I cleaned with it today will not be all brown and patchy in the morning  :o

 ???

Chris

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Mike Halliday on April 19, 2007, 09:08:24 pm

Chris, it might have an 'at use' Ph of 3-4 but what will it be once its mixed with the pre-spray?

I used Ph indicator  paper pressed against the freshly cleaned carpet and it showed a Ph of 6.

Mike

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: Chris R on April 19, 2007, 09:12:53 pm

Oh, I see what you mean now Mike  :-[

I wonder what the PH reading would be if you tested after cleaning with another type of acid rinse ?

Prochem Fibre and Fabric rinse ?

I will have to do my own test,

Thanks

Chris

Title: Re: Liquid high heat
Post by: stuart_clark on April 19, 2007, 10:07:58 pm

I too have been using high heat liquid this week on two or three jobs, i found it gave reasonable results but no comparison to formula 70 to which i use most of the time! i did notice a white furing on the heater element after a few fills with this chemical