Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mike Halliday on August 29, 2004, 08:11:41 pm
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I've got hands on one for a few days to try out before I buy one. what's the optimum pressure to use with it ( I have upto 800psi) and should I use a larger jet & lower PSI or visa-versa
Mike
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Mike,
I've been using the cfr handtool for about 6 months now and pressure and jet size depends what your cleaning. I find on delicate upholstery materials use jet size red no 1 and the optimum pressure on about 200-250 psi.Heavier cloths ie draylon jet size green no2 same pressure. I tend to use bigger jet sizes for stairs and spotting, you can turn the pressure up to around 400 psi on the largest jet size no 4 blue.
I'm pretty sure this applies to all machines (TM/portable) although i can only advise on using the cfr handtool with my cfr machine.The most important thing to remember when cleaning upholstery with this tool is to lift the material off the foam whilst applying water.I tend to achieve drying time on a suite about 30 mins with the added use of an air mover.
One more use, if you take the handtool away from the jet you can then use the jet to help clean down your equipment after use.
joe
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Hi Mike
I also use the CFR handtool at a pressure of 200 psi on upholstery fabrics and as Joe has already said the spray tip can be changed to suit the fabric
Derek
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Mike,
The general recommend pressure range for this tool is 100-1000psi.
For most upholstery I use 200-250psi with a no.1 jet.
On carpets, as rule of thumb you can use any pressure that does not lead to side-spill but there are recommended pressure/jet combinations on the label on the head of the tool.
John
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Derek,
Do we have telepathy going? We both posted at precisely the same second :o
John
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Hi Mike,
The maximum usable PSI for the CFR 3” & 5” Combo hand tools would be up to 500psi depending on fibre or fabric type. You’ll get a happy medium through practice.
The CFR wands, Special Purpose Hand Tool and hard floor cleaning tools can be used at up to 1000psi.
Regards
Steve
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Oops,
Sorry Mike, I defer to Steve's' greater knowledge on this subject. :-[
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Steve
I note both Derek and John use more or less the same pressure.
Would the hand/upholstery tool work with say steempro 70/100 psi
Len
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Len,
I don't know how well the atomisation would work at 70psi, but feel sure that the tool would be useable. At 100psi it certainly does work, and well.
John.
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Hi Len,
The tool works very well with 100-psi extractors with 80-psi being the minimum operating pressure required for atomisation to take place. It comes into its own league when used with high performance portables and truck mounts, which are capable of much higher solution pressures.
I have tried it with a 60-psi spotting machine but it didn’t give the desired rinsing action.
Regards
Steve
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John and Steve
Thanks for the feedback, so the min PSI is the key factor on this tool.
Len
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John and Steve
Thanks for the feedback, so the min PSI is the key factor on this tool.
Len
Quite right Len,
My understanding is that to achieve the results of which this tool is capable, the jet output combines with the air drawn in through the back slots to produce an atomised blast that is also to some extent supercharged by the airflow through these back slots.
The reason why Steve has said that some experimentation is required is that the working characteristics of the tool are affected by both the airflow and the solution pressure hence the variations between individual machines.
John.
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I've cleaned 2 suites with it today and am very impressed so tonite i'm going to order one from World of Clean.
I'm getting the tool with 3 inch head, the 5 inch head a yellow jet ( it comes with the red) should I buy the big 7inch head, anyone use one?
Mike
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Where is the best place to buy the CFR Tools and what attachments extras are best to purchase Thanks
regards Dave ADL
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I've been trying to buy it of the world of clean site but its not working :-[
the tool with 3inch head, the 5 inch head, a spare jet & a quick conector = £515 inc VAT
Mike
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Mike,
Not trying to steer you away from W of C, but if in a hurry try:
www.amtechuk.biz
Don't know if there will be a shipping cost.
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Dave555
The best place you canbuy a CFR tool from is ME, in a couple of weeks I will have a CFR Combo, +TM conv kit, + 3in head and 5in head.
Glynn
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I got the large 7 inch head and its very heavy and awkward to use IMO. It really needs a grab handle. I used it on stairs and didnt like it at all but cleaned the base of a suite (very large arms) once in record time.
Is the 5inch head better/quicker for cleaning upholstery.
Mark
PS. I use it with a 100 psi pump and seems to work fine but its noisey, and cumbersum
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hi all
i recently brought the 3" cfr tool from amtech uk £220.00 +vat inc tm conversion kit free next day delivery great service. glynn why are you selling don't you get on with the cfr, i might be interested in the 5" head if you will sell it seperate.
cheers
dave
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Now I've slept on it I've decided that no tool is worth £500 :o so I'm glad WOC was not working
I'll stick with what I've got.
Glynn, if your tool will be for sale in a couple of weeks I'm definetly interested.
Mike
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Mike,
for upholstery cleaning you only really need the 5inch head, should be about £300 with the tm adaptor. It is worth it.
Chris
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i would not be without my cfr tool.
i have 1 cfr tool & selection of jets on each of the 2 vans & a spare tool for back up.
Lee G
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mike
as i said before i brought the 3" with tm adaptor from amtechuk.biz for 220.00+ vat free delivery quoted 158.00+vat for 5" head = 378.00+vat=444.15 and i,m sure you could wangle a bit of discount especially buying two heads and if you are a member of the ncca they offer a discount. found mine to be great wish i'd got one ages ago.
dave