Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: steve01 on April 02, 2007, 02:51:47 pm
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Can anyone tell how much more powerful, has a TM got , compared to a portable. I often see adverts for cc, and they claim that, Tm are 10 times more powerful than a portable. I would of thought anymore power, and you would suck the whole carpet up.
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They have more power but i am led to believe the main advantage is that they get the job done faster (less set up time)
But if you use the right products and tecnique with a porty then the customer is just as happy (but with less overheads for the CC)
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My Car does 120mph but I do not drive at that speed.
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If your porti is a 100psi, 2x3 stage and a 55c heater then you could say
10 times as a TM is 1000psi+
10 times as a TM can run 500ft of hose where a portable is mainly 50ft
Twice as a TM can heat to around 100c.
Depends on what your trying to say.
I have both systems and i say four times more powerful is a nice average.
Cleaner, dryer, quicker and more in your back pocket.
Mark
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My leaflets/website says 18 times more powerful then a porty. We also say carpets touch dry.
Never had a problem with this. Custy always happy as carpets are always cleaner then they ever imagined and touch dry. When we pull up in a big shiny van and start the noisey diesel truckmount and they see the steam coming out the wand how could they question it.
This figure that can't be measured/compared anyway seems to be coming up alot at the moment. Who cares, the custys certainly don't.
The porty v TM debate will continue I am sure. However it will not be long before more of the chemdrys have them.
Since getting our TM last year referals are up and turnover is up 100%. Our running costs have gone up but are outweighed by the increase in business. Our carpet cleaning side of the business has gone from 6 day week to 4 and we will be getting another TM in two months time to start cc in another area.
Long live the TM!!!
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Just in passing,
Where do truck mount owners get their water from if on a water meter at home?
Do any of you fill up at custys house?
I would imagine my water bill to treble if I filled a truckmount at home although it should be tax deductable.
John
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Not on a meter, but it's only like filling up a bath, if it worked out expensive I would consider filling up at the end of the day at my last customers house while I'm packing away! ;)
Phil
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You tight bugger Phil, The cost of water via a meter is pennies compared to the time spent at the customers sink filling bucket. I know which I'd prefer. ;D
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I said "IF" it was expensive,
Down here water is like rocking horse s**t
+ you earn more than me!
Phil
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Carm down Philip any more shouting and I'll come down there and give you a slap son :P
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Best offer I'm going to get tonight. ;)
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Why dont you just go down the local petrol station and use the water next to the air hose. just make sure no ones watching.
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Dave wont admit this, but he does! ;)
Phil
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S*%t I've been spotted :-\
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When I went cleaning with him once Dave started to undress and wash his bits with the windscreen sponge until he heard the tannoy, "would that old man put his filler cap away" ;D apparently he's now unleaded - thank God!!
Shaun
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Putting the topic back on line
Steve the real truth of the matter is once you have used a t/m for any length of time, just the thought of filling and using a portable machine makes you feel ill. :-\
I'd rather die than than have to use one of them again :'(
My heart goes out to the lads in the smoke that can not use T/M machines due to poor parking.
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that is so true,forget TM in the smoke :P simply would not work
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I work alot around south london and with a bit of forward planning do not have to many problems. I use my t/m 95% of the time.
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The carpet cleaning world is evolving and changing all the time with new idea's and old idea's getting a new lease of life, ie encapsulation. In the states the truckmount is not looked upon as the be all and end all of carpet cleaning as much as it used to be. Commercially there are better methods and systems available to us which do as good a job if not better and quicker. Some of the latest portable extractors are self filling and emptying hence eliminating the need for buckets etc. The old debate about truckmount v portable machines is fast becoming a nostalgic trip down memory lane. I have a truckmount and a portable as part of my cleaning arsenal as well as low moisture cleaners, it pays to be prepared for all situations.
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Hi Steve ! thought you had a Bane ? is that classed as a truckmount ? Ha Ha !!
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Hi stuart, got a prochem blazer last july, but would class the bane as a t/m its no portable thats for sure.Have you upgraded from your flreet of ninjas yet?
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Hi Derek. Good post.
What encapsulation system are you using?
Cheers
Rab
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Getting back to the thread of the original post, it could be argued that a portable can be more powerful than a truckmount :o ??? ::)
Firstly, IMO, a T/M will always outperform a portable, but what I have to say is interesting. Last year, when I had nothing better to do ;) I worked out the vacuum in Air Watts for a high end portable and a "starter" T/M. Air Watts are generally considered to be the most valuable method of truly calculating a vacuum's true potential (on paper at least)I used figures that are widely available in various brochures. The portable was AO with 3x3 stage vacs. It produced more AW's than than the T/M. With portables typically capable of delivering psi that is in excess of what's needed, the greater psi of a T/M is not usually required. So, there's an argument that a portable is more powerful than a T/M
In reality, because the blowers and fans are engineered and work in different ways, the blower will always realise more of it's potential, so will actually out perform a more powerful porty.
For those interested,
Air Watts = lift(Hg)xCFM '/. 8.5
and for inches of water lift and Mercury lift Hgx13.5
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Its not for me to say Ken but I think from your last post your spare time would be far better spent polishing your bike mate. ;D
Rather than trying to calculate the air watts of a lamb vac.
For those of you out there with portable machines with twin vac motors you all ort to try 2" vac hose then you'd see a marked difference to air flow and better drying times :o
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Trouble is Dave, she is polished and she is rarin' to go.
Even with my triple vac set up, as Dave says, the 2" hose makes a tremendous difference.
Safe and happy riding :)
Ken
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Any time your at a loose end kid I have 26' of caravan here needing love and attention, ::)