Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ianharper on April 01, 2007, 10:21:51 am
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Guys
Question
Ashbys ninja has a vac booster that fits on to the exhaust to boost air flow. costs around £600.
Could you replace the booster and just hock up say a sensei, or second machine to do the same job of the boster?
Respect.
Ian Harper
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I think you can we had an old sen but the new ones are up to date with the out let to take the booster,not 100% but think this is the case,we have ninja
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the 1 by Solutions will double up as a small extraction machine for the same money.
Shaun
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guys
i want to use replace the booster with an old sensi, and the if needs be have the booster from solutions as well. this should give more reach and the very high air flow when needed.
You know what its like no two jobs are the same, being able to have more reach and provided fast drying times gives me choices
two reasons regards the sensi, one, i have an old one and, two cost, save the £600 to buy solutions booster.
One other option i am thinking about is the new hydrosonic wand that steve pointed out
http://hydrosonicwand.com/default.asp
i think having the ninja, two boost options, and the wand should provide me with a nice setup that gives top end performance.
Having just had the experience of the eclipse has show me what portability is about. you don't want it all in one machine. having it in parts that can be used as and when, is more effective to the user and not compromising customer benefits.
comments please
Respect
Ian Harper
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The best thing to do is phone Ashbys and find out what you need.
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Ian are you sure about the hydrasonic wand? the euphoria has now gone from the US boards about it as everytime something new comes out everyone has to be the first in. IMO I'd contact Jeff @ greenglides and he will tell you what he thinks he's a good honest bloke and won't let you waste good money.
Shaun
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thanks shaun.
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Ian have you ever thought of a Wonder Wand, they do dry carpets faster than a conventional 1.5" bore?
Shaun
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Shaun
I have been thinking about the cfr hand tool, have you seen it at work at any show etc?
respect
Ian harper
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the hand tool is a must have, you get the trigger attachment but can change the heads, 5" and 3".
I have a cfr wonderwand I changed the jets and it cleans faster and drier than a normal wand only thing is with my TM it does get locked to the floor so I tend to go for my glided westpak with the 2" tube and 14" head.
Well worth investing in good quality tools and cfr wands and tools are very good and very well made (better than 99% of other rubbish on the market)
Shaun
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SHAUN I changed my cfr wand for the glide version as the agitation strip would dig in with certain carpets and make it very hard work.Since then I can clean with one hand using the
500psi to help with the occasional agitation.I would imagine with your truckmount pressure
and vac power the wand locking on would be easier to handle using the cfr glide.
regards
RICE.
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Are you saying that they do a cfr wonderwand glide?
Shaun
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No Shaun
The conventional 11" push forward CFR wands are available with a pair of rollers (better on cust piles) or with a metal plate glide (better on low profiles) As far as I'm aware, no CFR tool accepts the Teflon or plastic glides.
Rice
The Wonder Wand is a 12" more conventional type wand which you draw backwards but operates with the CFR type of water delivery at the head.
Safe and happy wanding :)
Ken
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I've had both wands and the wonderwand is far easier to use, and I believe it makes you have good 'wand technique' when you are extracting because of the way it is designed.
Shaun
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shaun do you have a link to where i can look at this wonderwand
thanks darren
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I would have thought that if you were experiencing locking of the head
due to highpowered suction,then a forward pushing motion would be easier than a dragging one.By the way Ken for what its worth I have`nt found that much difference between the
two forward pushing models except for the extra physical effort.and the annoying rattling
sound of the roller.
regards rice.
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Darren
Try www.cleansmartsupplies.co.uk they sell them, if you call ask to speak with Matt, decent bloke. This is where I purchased mine from.
Regards
Paul
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Ian - I've got the Vac Booster - think I paid £500 plus the dreaded for it. Have top of the pops vac system and it gives really good performance. You can put the exhaust to another machine if you want (I think), but the Vac Booster is very neat.
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thanks steve,
got my eye on some other kit, so no point paying out for something when i have a machine that can do the same job and save me £600.
respect
ian harper
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ian
i would be intrested how you get on with the sensi idea as i have a small porty i could use as a booster, please email me how you get on thanks darren
contact@cleanserotherham.co.uk
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ian i hav been linking two machines up for extra vac for years, 600 pounds for one stupid vac box from ashbuys is so over priced !
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Paul
spot on mate. have you had two machines hocked up?
guys have a look at the video on my blog
http://cleanersnetwork.wordpress.com/
respect
Ian Harper
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yes i hookup a ninja and a seahawk machine, i can and do sometimes hookup both pumps together and can get upto 800 psi but u use the water very fast
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All that hydrosonic wand is is a metal venturi sucking air in with force of the water going past. Good idea but not worth the cost of another wand. The idea is something like the cfr tooling but with much greater atomisation isn't it?
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alan
can we have it english please?
(http://dc19.4shared.com/download/13991441/2a7991e4/300px-Venturifixed2.png)
A Venturi meter is shown in a diagram, the pressure in "1" conditions is higher than "2", and the relationship between the fluid speed in "2" and "1" respectively, is the same as for pressure.
A Venturi meter is shown in a diagram, the pressure in "1" conditions is higher than "2", and the relationship between the fluid speed in "2" and "1" respectively, is the same as for pressure.The Venturi effect is a special case of Bernoulli's principle, in the case of fluid or air flow through a tube or pipe with a constriction in it. The fluid must speed up in the restriction, reducing its pressure and producing a partial vacuum via the Bernoulli effect. It is named after Giovanni Battista Venturi, (1746–1822), an Italian physicist.
A fluid passing through smoothly varying constrictions is subject to changes in velocity and pressure in order to satisfy the conservation of mass-flux (flow rate). The reduction in pressure in the constriction can be understood by conservation of energy: the fluid (or gas) gains kinetic energy as it enters the constriction, and that energy is supplied by a pressure gradient force from behind. The pressure gradient reduces the pressure in the constriction, in reaction to the acceleration. Likewise, as the fluid leaves the constriction, it is slowed by a pressure gradient force that raises the pressure back to the ambient level.
The limiting case of the Venturi effect is choked flow, in which a constriction in a pipe or channel limits the total flow rate through the channel, because the pressure cannot drop below zero in the constriction. Choked flow is used to control the delivery rate of water and other fluids through spigots and other valves.
In the diagram shown abovet, using Bernoulli's equation in the special case of incompressible fluids (such as the approximation of a water jet), the theoritecal maximum pressure drop in the constriction would be given by (ρ/2)(v12 - v22). For example, for seawater ρ = 1.023 g /cc; 1.5 inch diameter pipe with a 0.25 inch restriction flowing 5 gpm; v at the pipe is 28 cm/sec; v at the restriction would have to be 995 cm/sec; the pressure drop would be -51,000 Pascals or about ½ bar!
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