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Title: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 22, 2007, 09:19:12 pm
Hi all.

           Picking up my new trolley system on Sat and need to keep asking questions.

1) I've ordered a 1000l IBC to purifiy water at home. How long (roughly) will it take to fill?

2) If I clean 15 detatched houses a day, how much water will I use?

3)If the 15 houses used around 200 litres, would I have to fill the IBC before using the water or only fill it half way?

Stupid questions but I'm alien to this at the mo.

Bob
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: crystal.clear on March 22, 2007, 09:22:59 pm
its hard to say how long it will take to fill the ibc tank. depends on your r.o water pressure. i have a 4040ro and good water pressure and it would take probably 7 hours i guess to fill.
And your question about how much water? you will alot more than 200 ltres probably double
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 09:23:48 pm
Bod
Its your RO thats producing the water
What system do you have?
Are you using the IBC for storage ?
Water usage will be high to start off with as you need to do lots of rinsing
to get the frames up to scratch.
Need more info from you to assist
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Russell Macdonald on March 22, 2007, 09:24:39 pm
Hi Bob.

1: What RO do you have?

2: I would use 200-250ltrs if some had cons as well.

3: I take it IBC means static, you can transfer all you want to.

You can double your water usage to begin with as you will have extra scrubbing & rincing. Plus you will waste water untill you start to get used to it.

Macc
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 09:27:45 pm
IBC = Intermediate Bulk Container
The big 1000ltr storage containers used for water storage
loads on ebay under IBC
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Russell Macdonald on March 22, 2007, 09:32:13 pm
IBC = Intermediate Bulk Container
The big 1000ltr storage containers used for water storage
loads on ebay under IBC

Thanks Russ, getting technical, to me its a static tank.  ;D

Macc
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 22, 2007, 09:33:45 pm
Not sure what ro system it is. I will know more when I pick it up on sat. All i can say is its a freedom trolley and I paid another £50 to upgrade the ro.

Yes I will be using the IBC for storage at home so i suppose it would be best to fill up the IBC and then keep topping it up as I use it.

Bob
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 09:43:20 pm
Bod
The most important thing in wfp is your RO
Find out what you are buying!
In my opinion you should get the biggest/best one you can afford.
Otherwise you will find with 6 -12 months you will be upgrading it.
I have a pro300GPD (thats 300 gallons per day)
Fills my IBC in a day and a bit.
I use between 600-800 litres a day (two man team)
So it will be shed loads for your trolley but you can turn it off when not required
and when you upgrade to a van mount you will not have to fork out again ;D ;D 
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 22, 2007, 09:48:48 pm
Thanks russ.
Its a long learning curve but im sure I will get there.
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 09:55:03 pm
Yes it is a learning curve with lots more to come
but it is well worth it in the end
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Russell Macdonald on March 22, 2007, 09:55:53 pm
I've the same as Russ. 300gpd RO MAN.

Like Russ said the RO is the most important bit. Check out what your getting cause you dont want to be up grading soon. A 300gpd is more than enough so i would recommend thats what you go for.

Macc
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 22, 2007, 09:58:29 pm
I think i have paid for a 200gpd RO. Will this be enough or shall i shell out another £50 for the 300?
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 10:00:24 pm
shell out the £50 it will increase your production by 50%
and like I said will save you upgrading in the future
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 22, 2007, 10:03:02 pm
Ok. Thats another £50 out of the sons piggy bank :o

Will I need an electricity point outside for the filter or tank?
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 10:20:53 pm
Again depends on your set up.
If you are storing the water in the IBC then transfering to your tank
then you will need a submersible pump and transfer hose to do the job.
If you are siting your RO outside also then it would be handy to have a double power supply outside.
Or run it off extension lead for now
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 22, 2007, 10:27:00 pm
Russ
So i definatly need a power point for the ro system?
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Chris Cottrell on March 22, 2007, 10:36:59 pm
Bob

the 200 will be fine for now if its the ro-man one you can allways upgrade later when you need to I use 200 gpd now with 2 man team and it keeps up with us no probs

save you money for now mate

Chris 
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: russ_clark on March 22, 2007, 11:00:57 pm
Yes the RO needs a mains supply mate
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: dave0123 on March 22, 2007, 11:13:00 pm
can i just but in and ask a quick question here!

I am thinking of putting my RO and storage tank behind my garage i have a nice little spot for it! but my outside tap is about 7 meteres away basicly at the house would it be ok to run a hose to it? or would it loose to much presure?

iv seen some pics on the RO'S using small pipes


Dave
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Alistair@AWC on March 22, 2007, 11:52:10 pm
Bod,

Just a couple of tips for you

1/  Make sure your IBC tank has an 8" lid not 5" it saves you having to cut a hole in the top for your submersible pump

2/  Fill your IBC then empty it and fill it back up your RO will prefer to run like that instead of stop starting



Regards

Alistair
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Ian_Giles on March 23, 2007, 06:37:30 am
can i just but in and ask a quick question here!

I am thinking of putting my RO and storage tank behind my garage i have a nice little spot for it! but my outside tap is about 7 meteres away basicly at the house would it be ok to run a hose to it? or would it loose to much presure?

iv seen some pics on the RO'S using small pipes


Dave

Connect up your R/O using normal garden hose, at least if you are several metres away!
Once you get to the R/O just use a connection that allows you to step down to the small tubing that the R/O uses.
My own R/O is fed via 20 odd metres of garden hose, but don't try it using an extra long length of the plastic hose, as distance will most certainly affect pressure and flowrate.

Ian
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: dave0123 on March 23, 2007, 10:05:53 am
Ian,

Quote
My own R/O is fed via 20 odd metres of garden hose, but don't try it using an extra long length of the plastic hose, as distance will most certainly affect pressure and flowrate.

You mean dont use the plastic hose that comes with the RO??

No i wasnt thinking of making that bigger i will just use normal hose to it!

i was just wondering if it could be done because if not it could be quite tricky as to how i will set it up  :D

Dave
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: batterbee on March 23, 2007, 04:06:36 pm
Hi Bod

I also live in Norwich, i have a 1000ltr ibc tank and a 300gpd ro, my tap pressure is only around 60 psi and that fills the tank in 1 1/2 days.

My tap reading is around 395ppm and the ro takes that down to around 4ppm after the ro then down to 0ppm after di.

I only have to change the di resin around 2 1/2 - 3 months and i change the pre filters every 6 months, so the basic cost of running the 300gpd ro is very minimal.

Hope this helps

Regards John
Title: Re: How long to fill an IBC
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 23, 2007, 09:32:51 pm
John

          Do you clean residential and could I possibly see how you have set up your IBC?



Bob