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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: stuart_clark on March 22, 2007, 05:37:38 pm
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does anyone have a Rhino portable extracter out there ? are they any good ? how much do they cost? where can you purchase them from ?
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Hi Stuart,
I use a rhino and to be honest i can't fault mine yet, only had it for about 7 months. For the money i payed for mine you would not be able to get the same spec machine at the same price. Very pleased with mine. Got mine directly from vernon purcell from masterclean.
Matt
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hi stuart
can also get them here
http://www.cleansmartsupplies.co.uk/
darren
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we had one on loan foe a month awhile back good machine ...simon
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bought a 500 psi machine last year and it's great the pump is absolutly massive! And just bought 10x 135psi machines and must say it a great entry level machine, they come in grey granite like prochem now and don't show the knocks, considering the floor tool is the same as prochem, you have to consider it as a viable machine for business especially as you can have two for the price of nearly anything else.
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cheers Paul i might just do that next time iam visiting DS
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Pualking, Thats the same machine as mine. Have you actually tested what the max psi is though that comes out the wand. If not measure it mate you might be quite surprised.
matt
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does that mean good or bad,we have ninja 135 at the moment
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lol terry. Well basically when i brought mine which was the 500psi machine, because i was new to carpet cleaning and this was my first hwe it really annoyed me that i didnt know what pressures i was working with. It has an adjuster for your pressure settings but there is nothing to go buy so i got my local pirtek to make me up a psi guage which wasn't as cheap as i hoped and would of made my own if i knew what bits and sizes i needed. Anyway i was dying to find out the max pressure of my machine when i got home and to my amazement it was 200 psi that was coming out of the wand head. I spoke to vernon about this and i think it is to do with the pumps being regulated or something so by not letting the pump work flat out all the time you are prolonging the life of the pump? Now i don't know if that is a load of old bxxxxxxs or what so make of it what you will. But to be honest 200 psi is enough for me and i was happy enough with that, you still couldn't get a machine of that spec for the price i payed for mine. That also goes to show folks that if you had say a 135psi machine that doesn't mean neccessarily that is what is coming out of the wand.
Regards
Matt
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wow interesting,the 400psi ninja has dials to show you,mine does not :-\
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Yeah i would of thought that could also give you inaccurate reading but i might be wrong when i tested mine i put the gauge between the solution line and the attachment (the wand) If for instance i had mounted it further back it might of read higher as you will probably lose some pressure by the time it gets to the wand.
matt
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never tried the guage thing myself but will build one and give it a go, but must say like yourself you can't buy better for the money. the 500 psi pump does seam to put out a very good pressure thought, we were all impressed and in fact someone said "that's nearly as good as a TM for pressure" but do think the 135psi machine gives a better balance between pressure and vac, apprently you can can get a 200psi with the induction motor the size of a house like the 500psi and guess that would be a very good comprimise.
here a couple of picture of the 'Army" as it pat testing day in the workshop today. 6 weeks on and not a break down that will do for me!
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Matt - are you saying that you got a 500 psi Rhino from Masterclean and they had set the pump to work at a max of only 200? That's not right surely :-\ I got a 400 psi Ninja from Ashbys, it's got a gauge on the side so you can see you working pressure. When you pull the trigger on the tool it only drops about 50 psi, so it's still working at about 350 psi.
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steve we have 135 ninja,whats the 400 psi is it the nuts ;D we were thinking of up grade at some point,but do we go for a rhino :-\
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Steve i said the same thing to vernon because i wasn't sure either i took the machine apart and the pump is huge so??? I would of been extremely pxxxxd off if i had payed a higher price but i think 200 psi is enough for me anyway to be honest my machine is mainly a rinsing process after a damn good prevac and aggitation. It has always been something on my mind though about this psi never properly understood it myself. If you look back there is a few posts off mine about this confusion which no one seemed to be able to help me with even spoke with other suppliers who didn't have a clue so god knows?
matt
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in your opinion,Rhino 500 psi or ninja 400 psi :-\ bearing in mind we have ninja
135 now
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Paul
Where did you buy them from, and how much are they?
Thanks
Dan
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terry ive had both and id go for ninja, as for pressure on your machines if u brought it because they told u 500 psi then it should giv u near that not 200 psi your paying for a big pump and only get 200 psi what load rubbish and thers a big diff in perfomace when working with 200 as oposed to 400 !!! if this is true u could saved u self money and only brought a 200 psi machine, if he says they hav bin set at 200 psi unscrew the reg numpty and fill it with washers an c if u get 500psi if not hes sold u a machine with only a 200 psi pump !!!
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paul ashbys are so near to us,if any thing go,s wrong they fix while you wait :o
I did not buy from them,but may consider the 400 psi with more vac power as they claim,the 135 is a very good machine and I have been very pleased with it,
but your not the first to say,if you can go for ninja do it :-\ but then I have not
got to many reports on the rhino,only from the psi thing :-\
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the ones we got are from the 135psi from restormate if you order 8 you get a discount! considering we could only buy 3 (and a little one) extracta machines with the same spec (twin vac 135 psi) for the same money it was a bit of a no brainer.
P.s Extracta are only 20 mins from my house and have'nt used them for ages, went in for a sight glass for Chris R, few mondays ago and was greated with "HAVE'NT YOU GONE BUST" aahhh fair warms the cockles of your heart.
Mind you wish i'd sold as many machines as them,there was a nice shiny range rover at the side door ;-)
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Paulking may i ask what it is you do? Do you sell carpet cleaning equipment?
I would really appreciate it mate if you could measure the psi of your so called machine i would be really interested to see if yours is the same as mine.
Paul Wright, you are most probably right you know he did say he was going to send me a tenser spring so i could have more pressure at hand but never did. I have given him loads of chances to come clean if he has sold me something which he has advertised being more powerful then it is. If this is the case i will be abit annoyed.
cheers
matt
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matt what make is the pump and what is the model number
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Terry,
Have you asked about getting a bigger pump for your machine?
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yes about £4/500 :o but the vacs on the 400psi are more powerful,appartly,so cost would be best just to change machine,not sure yet what we will do :-\
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Paul just taken my machine apart to have a look for you, the part no i think is m18 and the model no is BVN 48s17D127OH P. Thats prob all i can tell you but got some good clear photos on my phone of it if i can only find out how to upload them.
cheers
matt
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matt will take a look on wednesday, first chance i'll get not sure just how i will measure the pressure yet but in at Thorite in that morning so will ask them nicely too cobble something together, as for what i do, I'm a carpet cleaner, or 10 years, it just depends on which tariff you use. ;)
jokes aside honestly i'm just a carpet cleaner, I've been nice to customers and they have been nice to me. that's about it.
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Hi paul in a mo i will hopefully upload some pics for ya. My pump does look quite hefty. The way my guage is made is i have a t-junction with a female q/c and a male q/c and a guage measuring to 580 psi pretty simply really all standard 1/4" fittings my local pirtek sorted me out. The way i plugged my gauge in was to connect it between the end of my solution hose and between the wand/handtool this i believe is the most accurate way of doing it because apparently if you connect it from the machine q/c and the solution hose you get surges from the pump which will not only give an inaccurate reading but may also damage the gauge itself. Also you want to know what is coming out of the wand head itself.
regards
matt
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I have one of vernons 200psi pumps as an upgrade to a 135. The difference is staggering. If you look at the masterclean website, you will see they supply a whole range of pumps. The 200 and the 500 certainly don't appear to be the same.
One word of caution though. If you do buy one from Masterclean you may
NOT GET A RECEIPT FROM THEM, EVEN AFTER NUMEROUS EMAILS AND A PHONE CALL.
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Nevil, how strange i can completely relate to that it took me about 2-3 months to get an invoice of them and god knows how many phone calls?
matt
Ps And after that it still came through wrong so i just gave up their aftercare service aint brilliant.
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thats a shame ashbys I can say are top service,me finks may stay with ninja :-\
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Hey Paul hopefully these links that i have posted above will show you the pictures of my pump i took the other night. Have you had chance to look at yours yet mate?
regards
matt
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paulking, did you have a look at your rhino?
I would be really interested to hear from you about this?
regards
matt
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???
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Matt, Paul is a very busy guy and has some unfortunate family illness issues at the minute, I'm sure he'll get back to you when he can.
Can you email your address?
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I'm sorry i had no idea.
My email address is mattjones84@hotmail.com
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Hi guys i relise pauls circumstances which im very sorry to here.
So i was wondering if any one else could solve my answer which is what size is the pump in my machine?
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No it doesn't mate nothing like it in fact it does look like the 500 psi pump on vernons site.