Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: P @ F on March 09, 2007, 08:03:20 pm
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Just gone over to varistream from return to tank setup , im having big probs !
When i shut off the flow at hose end the system starts to pressurise and the varistrean does not switch off , i start springing leaks all over the shop , just heard a crack from the DI too !
Im guessing that i need to take the panel off and move the ABCDEF thing a bit , at the moment it is set to factory spec i assume , can anybody help please , pretty please ?
Rich P @ F ???
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Yes rich you need to adjust the little blue pot inside.
what size pump and what type hose?
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I knew it was gonna be you Jeff ! , shurflo 100 psi 100 m micro 6mm .
What do i need to do ?
Rich P @ F
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Rich Ive got 100psi & 100m micro too and both my V2's are set on "F"
Chris
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Alright , got that , but what should it be set at when i open the cover ?
Rich P @ F
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I knew it was gonna be you Jeff ! , shurflo 100 psi 100 m micro 6mm .
What do i need to do ?
Rich P @ F
'O' dear should I have stayed quite then Rich ;D
Just turn it down one letter at a time until system runs fine.
I can't help you with the Di though.
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Alright , got that , but what should it be set at when i open the cover ?
Rich P @ F
What ever they set it to in the factory, I think they calabrate them using 100 psi pump.
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no idea Rich cant remember what mine were set at originally
As Jeff says one step at a time just leave cover off while you test it
Chris
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start on "E" and take it from there,
did you bypass the micro switch on the pump itself, ie take the extra wires off the pump
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start on "E" and take it from there,
did you bypass the micro switch on the pump itself, ie take the extra wires off the pump
Rich
This is a very good point from dave, you have to disconnect the pressure switch on your pump? You should be left with 2 wires only.
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WHAT DO YOU THINK , IM NOT A COMPLETE MUPPET !
Im all sorted now chaps , its set on d/e with the dial pointing directly up , i assume this is number 3 ?
Just out of interest , what do you lot have yours set to ?
Thanks for all your input people , most helpfull .
Rich P @ F
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Mines usually set at the 12 o'clock position
WHAT DO YOU THINK , IM NOT A COMPLETE MUPPET !
You sure about that Rich ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Craig
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They call me GONZO in Plymouth ;D
My dial is set at the 12 o clock position , when i switch off the hose should the pump cut out and stay out , or does it come on for a spurt every now and again , mine does this , is it normal or should i knock the blue dial back a little more ?
Rich P @ F
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yes it will hunt for a while and each hunt will get longer and longer between , also any slack will be taken up , ie if the hose starts to give a little bit the varistream will soon fill that space
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what do you lot have yours set to ?
It all depends on your own system.
With the hose removed from the pump outlet, you should be able to turn the outside dial all the way up to boost.
When you put the hose back on the pump outlet, the rest of your system comes into play. Length of hose, diameter of hose, coils on your reel, connector's. All these cause a resistance to the flow.
If you pour liquid through a funnel, the amount you pour in cannot be greater than the funnels ability to let it through. if you pour too quick the funnel will overflow.
Your system in enclosed so cannot overflow, so pressure builds up. When this pressure becomes higher, it has the same effect as you cutting off the flow at the pole. This is why on some systems, you can only run up to the 12 o'clock position. Any higher and The Varistream will stop your pump. As some pressure is released, the pump comes back on. Rapid on, off, on, off, is known as cycling.
The little blue dial inside is in effect a variable pressure switch. This switch works by sensing the demand the pump makes on your battery.
The correct setting for this dial will depend on your own system.
As has been said above, one increment at a time adjustment, is the best way to find the right setting for your own system.
Many of you will already know all this, but it may help new Varistream users to understand how the thing works. Dai
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Thanks Dave and Dai , my system runs exactly as Dave described , is this ok that it cuts in and out for tiny periods or should i turn the dial back a touch , or will the system cut in and out at whatever setting ?
Rich P @ F
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Why the sudden need for a v2 Rich? I thought you were a big fan of the rtn valve and didnt see a need to spend extra on flow controllers or are you just treating yourself to a little lux?
Chris
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Change of heart due to the fact that i have already killed 2 batteries , the pump was consantly going and killing the batteries off quickly .
My flow rate was getting harder to set for some reason , i was round the back of a big job for about 90 mins , when i came back to the van i found that the pressure switch had been going mental all that time !
Rather than blow the pump or switch i decided it was time for a V2 , and im glad i did , just been out and done a bit , what a great bit of kit it is .
While i am on here , the hozeloc connector that goes to the in side of the DI , does it have to be a particular type ?
I mean a standard one or one of the ones that stops the flow if it should at any time pop off ?
Rich P @ F
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dont supose it really matters unless you want to disconnect often and dont want to loose water I do wonder however if a stop connector would reduce flow slightly with there being a bung of sorts inside it
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my system runs exactly as Dave described , is this ok that it cuts in and out for tiny periods or should i turn the dial back a touch , or will the system cut in and out at whatever setting ?
Yes, this exactly how it works. It sends pulses every few seconds to check that the resistance/ pressure is the same. It will stop doing this after a few minutes. Dai
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Rich
I have took my DI vessel out of my van now i just put it inline with my hose when i fill up, so i am only carrying 0 tds.
By using stop valves you are leaving yourself open to more problems , just one extra thing to go wrong, I would reccommend a straight through hoselock connector, or simply do as i do-----------------------------
0 tds into tank then short hose to pump, then pump to hose.
So simple leave all the problems for when you are filling up rather than on the road.
If you are going to a big job just for extra insurance take a small empty di vessel with you.
Dave
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Have removed all the non return valves now , sweet !
My system only gets fed with pure too Dave , i still keep my di in the van for that final polish ,
And the varistream is the dogs danglies , i said in a prior message about having killed 2 batteries , well i used the worst battery of the lot today , it only usually runs for 3 hours , and is caned by 12 , today i used the same battery from 9 to 5.30 , no loss of pressure and its still got loads of life in it !
ITS OFFICIAL , VARISTREAMS WILL PROLONG THE LIFE OF YOUR BATTERY !
Rich P @ F
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Wont say we told you so then Rich eh
;D
Chris
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I told him 2 years ago
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OKOKOKOKOK , my mistake , it just goes to show , you think you know it all but you dont !
Always somthing to learn , i just never wanted to spend the money on a little plastic box ;D
Rich P @ F
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Rich
Can you still adjust the fan jets with the Varistream?
You showed me before about changing the jets, but can you still do it.
Am thinking of getting some thats all
Craig
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Im not sure old bean , or should i say ancient bean ;D
I will go play in a minute , i dont reckon so , but hey i have been wrong before , this thread is evidence to that !
RiCH p @ f
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Craig , you can do it but its a weak pencil , saying that though , Vari tech have changed the fans since i got them , i got red , they now run blue , they have a bigger hole so i reckon the pencil will be stronger .
Rich P @ F
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u must disconect presure switch on pump or u will have 2 swich in line then reset pot in side box.