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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Sarah Sarill on March 08, 2007, 07:34:24 am

Title: Just Checking
Post by: Sarah Sarill on March 08, 2007, 07:34:24 am: Thanks for your input on the water tank fitting. The van has now been booked in for next Friday but I just wanted to check that I have chosen the right size.

The van is a Citroen Relay Citrtoen 1000 HDI TD SWB so I have gone for a 600 ltr tank.

Is that the max I can SAFELY install ?

We are used to a 100ltr and never having to refill the same day when doing our commercial jobs and just wondered if you felt the 1000ltr would be cutting it fine.

Thanks peeps,

Sarah
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: russ_clark on March 08, 2007, 07:35:49 am: Sarah
What is the payload of the van ??

Russ
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 08, 2007, 07:43:08 am: Looks like the payload is 1145 kg. If I've got the right van, it looks like there is plenty of leeway.
Personally, I like to leave at least 500kg above the weight of the tank water but I carry a fair bit of kit including a loaded 50 litre trolley. If you carry less kit then you can get away with lower payloads.
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Sarah Sarill on March 08, 2007, 07:45:11 am: yes thats the one 1135 according to What van.

Plenty of leeway to use a 1000 ltr then ?

How do you work it out mathematically then ?

Sarah
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Pj on March 08, 2007, 07:47:51 am: 1 litre = 1 kilo.

Don't forget to allow for you, all other kit, fuel as well :o
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Sarah Sarill on March 08, 2007, 07:50:46 am: Quote from: Pj on March 08, 2007, 07:47:51 am
1 litre = 1 kilo.

Don't forget to allow for you,

Thats topped it over then ;)

1000 lt = 1000kg leaving us only 135 - thats too much weight then or is my unmathematical brain just being stoopid. :P

Sarah
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Pj on March 08, 2007, 08:00:16 am: That's right. Only way round it is don't fill the tank up full. If you do it will be over it's max payload.
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Sarah Sarill on March 08, 2007, 08:15:48 am: Thanks all - thats another tick off my list to sort out today ;)

Sarah
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Andrews_Water on March 08, 2007, 08:18:32 am: Sarah,

Be careful on this one. I was fined £2000 for being overloaded on the M6 a few years ago - my first offence!

Yours, Andrew
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: russ_clark on March 08, 2007, 08:19:03 am: 1135 kgs payload
will be overweight with a full 1000ltr tank 2 people,other kit,fuel etc.
You could go for an 800 if you are running a two man team.
Otherwise as previosly stated fit the 1000 but you should not fill it up.
You would have to work out roughly :-
weight of tank est. 50 kgs
weight of poles/reels/etc est.100kgs
two men est.150kgs ish
fuel weight etc.

I run a 650 tank but only have 815 payload with a two man team
We only ever fill to about 3/4 full and have to top up as and when.
We also keep the fuel low £10 a time but our work is normally local.

Hope that helps Sarah

Russ
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Sarah Sarill on March 08, 2007, 08:25:46 am: If anything guys I am a typical woman - cautious to the extreme :P

Will now go for the 600 lt tank as we are very lucky in that our work is in our town so are only ever 10 mins away from another fill up. ;D

Besides the 1000 ltr may not fit inside the van but I'll be picking it up to take it for signwriting later so will measure it up then.

Thanks both - your help is much appreciated. ;)

S x
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 08, 2007, 08:42:10 am: Apart from the overloading issue, I prefer not to push a van to its limits all the time anyway. I doubt it can do them any good.
Maybe put all the kit you would normally use in there, fill up with diesel and have whoever normally does the work in there. Take it to a weighbridge. Find out what weight the tank (incl. batteries, pumps etc) will be. Whatever is left is the weight of water you can carry.
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Ian_Giles on March 08, 2007, 09:41:00 am: You'll be safe on the 650 litre tank too Sarah, though I thought the payload on the Relay was higher than that?
Or perhaps some are rated higher than others.
My Primastar is just around 1050k so I have a 650l tank in mine and full to the gills I've not exceeded the weight limit on the van.
The Citroen Relay is the next size van up from mine...at one point I was going to go for one of those so I could have a 1000l IBC tank fitted...but changed my mind...several times!! :-\

Ian
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Sir Squeaky on March 08, 2007, 09:43:48 am: Quote from: Ian_Giles on March 08, 2007, 09:41:00 am
My Primastar is just around 1050k so I have a 650l tank in mine and full to the gills I've not exceeded the weight limit on the van.
Gotta be close though Ian. ;D :-X

;)
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Ian_Giles on March 08, 2007, 10:01:11 am: No Rog, I've had over a half tank of water on board and gone down to Forest Sands to pick up close to a half ton of gravel in the back, and wasn't overloaded when van was on the weighbridge.

And on the Primestar there are warning indicators if you are overloaded too, and they haven't ever lit up either!

Or maybe one is insinuating that my svelte, dainty figure might affect the weight of the van? :'(

Ian
Title: Re: Just Checking
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 08, 2007, 10:02:19 am: Quote from: Squeaky Clean. on March 08, 2007, 09:43:48 am
Quote from: Ian_Giles on March 08, 2007, 09:41:00 am
My Primastar is just around 1050k so I have a 650l tank in mine and full to the gills I've not exceeded the weight limit on the van.
Gotta be close though Ian. ;D :-X

;)

Now we know the real reason Ian has switched to a lighter pole ;D