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Title: is the work saturated?
Post by: misterrartois on March 03, 2007, 11:14:07 am
I am in Essex and have tried unsuccessfully to sell some of my work round here.....i have tried Shop windows,this Forum,other forums...had interest,but mainly time wasters.
 Its not that i need the dosh (the Carpets are really starting to kick in now :) )i genuinely would like to look after my ex-customers,so my question is...is the world of Window cleaning now saturated/Has everybody got enough/too much Work?

 I guess its a good thing .

Regards to all..this really is a wonderful forum,without the search feature on here i wouldnt have had such success so far spotting all kinds of crazy,weird stuff on differant Carpets! ;D
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: russ_clark on March 03, 2007, 12:47:08 pm
Where is the work in Essex? Is it wfp or trad?
Have you tried to advertise it in the Evening Echo?
If the work was bang on my doorstep I may be interested at the right price
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: cottonbud10 on March 03, 2007, 09:19:57 pm
i would be up for more work,still looking to give myself 4 days a week per month...i live in southend so drop me a line if the work you have is nearby..thanks..kev
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Davew on March 04, 2007, 01:20:58 pm
Most of my work is saturated but it soon dries off when the sun comes out. ;D
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: rhino on March 05, 2007, 09:30:14 am
Is the window cleaning market saturated?
I attended a B.W.C.A course a couple of week ago and the instructor told everyone that there are 160,000 registered window cleaners in this country.
Now, if were generous and say there are 30 million domestic properties plus 10 million commercial properties it gives a total of 40 mill'.
40 mill' divide by 160,000 leaves a grand total of 250 customers per w/c!!!
I may have got the sums wrong. If not, it's not a very good ratio.
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Davew on March 05, 2007, 04:38:04 pm
Mmm looks like there's not much room for any more window cleaners then?
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 05, 2007, 08:00:27 pm
Is the window cleaning market saturated?
I attended a B.W.C.A course a couple of week ago and the instructor told everyone that there are 160,000 registered window cleaners in this country.
Now, if were generous and say there are 30 million domestic properties plus 10 million commercial properties it gives a total of 40 mill'.
40 mill' divide by 160,000 leaves a grand total of 250 customers per w/c!!!
I may have got the sums wrong. If not, it's not a very good ratio.


250 decent customers would be about right for me I think.  I have 210 at the moment.  I could lose 30 or 40 of the lower paid jobs and substitute with about 80 higher paying jobs and I would consider that an OK workload.  Of course I'm not talking about all 3 bed semis.
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: a-r window cleanin on March 09, 2007, 03:07:15 pm
I would be happy with 250 customers all £10 + throw in a couple of commercial on top to bump my takings up
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: rhino on March 09, 2007, 03:33:28 pm
Commercials are included in the 250.
Plus, a proportion of the 250 won't want their windows cleaned so the figure could be a lot lower.
Having said all the above, i'm still going to give it a go........stooopid or wot!!
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Dean Aspects on March 09, 2007, 04:06:29 pm
oops ive just put a window cleaner out of business
i have near 500 jobs  :o
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: a-r window cleanin on March 10, 2007, 07:01:22 am
I am aiming for 500 customers but currently have 244 so just under the 250 mark!!
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: rhino on March 10, 2007, 10:44:19 am
Hope it's not going to be me Aspects!! He,he
If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take you to get 500??
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Dean Aspects on March 10, 2007, 11:11:38 am
i have been cleaning windows for 12 years but have always got to a certain amount of work then sold of the worst or the work too far away

then about 2 years ago i was and still am considering emigrating to canada so i was at a immigration show and i asked one of the people there about window cleaning in canada and how it is regarded she told me about a glaswegian w/c that moved over 10 years ago and now turns over $3.1million per year :o

that got me thinking about all the work i have sold dropped and turned down over the years
i was inspired by this so have being building up my round from i think it was around the 200 jobs to now 465 in about a year i employ 1 person full time and very soon will be putting another van on the road and another employee

look at www.yourwindowcleaner.com

i never turn jobs down i just price well i have just taken on 10 jobs this week that was dumped by a previous w/c his price-£3.50 mine some £5 couple £6
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: geefree on March 21, 2007, 12:31:00 am
not to mention the 2 million unregistered ones. ;)
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: * mike RH on March 21, 2007, 01:06:07 pm
The population of Britain is nearly 59 million so if there are 160, 000 window cleaners that means around one in 368 of people in Britain are window cleaners!

Of those, 368 some would be children, retired, women (no offence to you lady window cleaners out there) ......so that doesn't leave a lot does it?

I think 160,000 is a bit high.





Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Trevor Knight on March 21, 2007, 03:22:30 pm
I attended a B.W.C.A course a couple of week ago and the instructor told everyone that there are 160,000 registered window cleaners in this country.

I really don't believe that.

Look at it this way, Add up the Clearchoice membership of 600, the FED, not sure how many members and APWC, again not sure, and that means less than 1-2% % are in an association of some kind????

I really don't think 160,000 is anywhere near acurate. My town has population of 34,000 and I only know of about 15 window cleaners, have been in this area for 15 years and we get to know each other very well. Thats a ratio of 1/2266?

Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: rhino on March 25, 2007, 03:13:43 pm
I understand what you're saying and i agree.
The 160,000 figure mentioned on the course does seem high.
I took a look at the BWCA website a while ago to double check and the figure is even HIGHER!! 180,000 from memory.
This gives an even worse ratio of w/c to customer. Not very encouraging for us newbies.
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: Trademark WC on March 28, 2007, 06:22:48 pm
im interested in the work I live in essex, where abouts is the work?

Rob
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: andypandy on March 28, 2007, 09:21:55 pm
is the work still available?
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: window pain on April 03, 2007, 09:44:43 pm
i have been cleaning windows for 12 years but have always got to a certain amount of work then sold of the worst or the work too far away

then about 2 years ago i was and still am considering emigrating to canada so i was at a immigration show and i asked one of the people there about window cleaning in canada and how it is regarded she told me about a glaswegian w/c that moved over 10 years ago and now turns over $3.1million per year :o

that got me thinking about all the work i have sold dropped and turned down over the years
i was inspired by this so have being building up my round from i think it was around the 200 jobs to now 465 in about a year i employ 1 person full time and very soon will be putting another van on the road and another employee

look at www.yourwindowcleaner.com

i never turn jobs down i just price well i have just taken on 10 jobs this week that was dumped by a previous w/c his price-£3.50 mine some £5 couple £6

hi In canada how do they clean windows in the winter it's supposed to be very cold.
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: EasyClean on April 03, 2007, 10:20:58 pm
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
If some window cleaners continue bragging about how much they can earn in such little time, than all I can say is make the most of it while it lasts because all they are doing is drawing attention to this occupation from other trades.
Before you know it every Tom, Dick & Harry will be jumping on this so called Bandwagon flooding the market causing a very healthy competition for us all.
The only winners in the long term will be the customers because they will be able to shop around for value. Customers aren't stupid and they're not all loyal!
Beware of the future!
Title: Re: is the work saturated?
Post by: bluesteve on April 07, 2007, 07:22:39 pm
could nt agree more, hence you never know who's listening,
(im not talking about the tax man, reference previous posts) keep this proffession as quiet as possible , please dont brag about it.