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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Colin_Glenn on March 02, 2007, 06:47:43 pm

Title: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Colin_Glenn on March 02, 2007, 06:47:43 pm
Went to USA last week and saw this. It was the only decent day during the whole week, the rest of the time was blowing a gale.

Not a job I would fancy

Colin
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Colin_Glenn on March 02, 2007, 06:49:13 pm
just to put it into perspective...
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Post by: Mike_G on March 02, 2007, 06:51:04 pm
Now that is what I call a bucket on a belt!
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Post by: U.S. wfp USER on March 02, 2007, 06:52:45 pm
Just look forward, dont look down. ;)
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Post by: JM123 on March 02, 2007, 06:54:39 pm
2 or 3 hours first thing in the morning, £80?
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Post by: Jason Atwell on March 02, 2007, 06:56:17 pm
Go on then guys!! What would you all charge?????? ;D ;D
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Jason Atwell on March 02, 2007, 06:57:51 pm
No helmet, No high vis vest, No parachute???
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Post by: Russell Macdonald on March 02, 2007, 07:21:31 pm
Squeaky is always giving it large, i would like to see him on that job  ;D.

Macc
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Pat Purcell on March 02, 2007, 08:24:32 pm
No helmet, No high vis vest, ???
exactly how would they help :)
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Post by: Jake on March 02, 2007, 08:30:08 pm
Great pics Glenn, Fancy doing that for a living..no thanks!

The guy top left, missed a bit
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Jason Atwell on March 02, 2007, 09:13:52 pm
No helmet, No high vis vest, ???
exactly how would they help :)

ERR exactly how they are supposed to help!!!

Do you not think there might just be a bit of wind up there, swaying the cleaner on the rope for example, would of thought a helmet would be a must!
And everyone wears high vis vests for everything now adays!
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: marc al on March 02, 2007, 09:30:20 pm
  How would a helmt help? I think it may just break your fall from up there.

   I always have a laugh when you see people wearing hard hats on a construction site when the only thing above them is 10 tonne steel girders hanging from a crane.
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Jason Atwell on March 02, 2007, 09:47:40 pm
Think if you go onto 99% of construction sites, there will be a few more things that can drop on your head than just 10 tonne steel girders, thats why on probably 99.9% of construction sites everyone wears a HELMET!
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: WavieDavie on March 02, 2007, 09:55:03 pm
Do you not think there might just be a bit of wind up there, swaying the cleaner on the rope for example

Look again at the individual photo - they're using suckers http://www.windows101.com/shop/images/suctioncupmetal.jpg
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Jason Atwell on March 02, 2007, 10:00:18 pm
Oh yeah, they look like the suckers you get on some conservatory ladders, CRAP! Even with these i would still of thought  they would be wearing hard hats just as a rule for the conditions and the job they are doing!

Is any of the guys online who do abseiling work, what do you guys wear and are there any statutory rules and regs for work wear , either from hse or insurance?
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Pat Purcell on March 02, 2007, 11:07:41 pm
Jase. i do abseiling in the US,Not sure how big the one in the pic is but we do a few above 30 floors, There is no rule about wearing a hard hat and to be honest I dont think anyone ever even considered it
 The suction cups they are using are standard and will hold you in position even when you pull against it with all you got, there is a quick release bar on the handle to release from the glass
In the only close up photo it appears that the guy is not wearing a safety harness or lanyard which is a big no-no and although they are running 2 lines a life line and a work line they both appear to be running thru their abseiling device which used to be ok but not anymore
 Colin was the bank actually in NEw Jersey or was it somewhere else as at this time of year in the north east its just too cold to do that kind of work
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Londoner on March 03, 2007, 09:19:56 am
A hats not going to do you much good if you fall from up there is it? Great photos, can we start a photo archive?
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Post by: DREAM CLEAN on March 03, 2007, 09:26:15 am
what happens if you need the loo?
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Post by: RO-Sheen on March 03, 2007, 09:51:32 am
Bummer if you dropped your squeegee!
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Post by: Nathanael Jones on March 03, 2007, 10:23:56 am
I do a bit of that work myself,... on a much smaller scale, a lot closer to the ground.

Lads,.. on the helmet issue,.. it might seem a bit silly wearing a helmet up there, but a helmet will save you if you are caught by a gust of wind loose you balance, and get thrown against the building head first, which can happen very easily when you're swinging on the end of 100' of rope!
Also, their gear should be secured by a light rope to their harness,.. for the safety of pedestrians walking below.
And,.. it could just be me, but I can only see 1 rope? I can see a reflection on the glass which looks like a second rope at a glance. NEVER EVER attempt this kind of work without an active safety rope!!

It's great money if you can get the work though!
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: s.hughes on March 03, 2007, 01:11:16 pm
The reason for a hard hat is if anything falls on your head. If you are faster than your co-worker then you are going to be lower than he is and in the direct path of a falling applicator, or at that height it could even be a bird!!!!

Steve
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Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Pj on March 03, 2007, 01:14:33 pm
Isn't there a law against that? :o
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Pat Purcell on March 03, 2007, 02:11:44 pm
The reason for a hard hat is if anything falls on your head. If you are faster than your co-worker then you are going to be lower than he is and in the direct path of a falling applicator, or at that height it could even be a bird!!!!

Steve
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Can't argue with you Steve,No matter how safe you are working there is always something else you could have done to make it safer and a helmet would be a small thing to add to make it safer
As far as tools falling each tool should be secured by a flexible lanyard to the bucket or the bosuns chair and while it is not impossible for it to happen in 20 years ive never heard of an accident caused by this
Isn't there a law against that? :o
No PJ there is no law prohibiting Bosuns Chair work, there are a few restrictions on height and the weight of the individual, but those lads are well under the 300ft limit and they look like a bunch of skinny south americans :)
Title: Re: First National Bank New Jersey USA
Post by: Colin_Glenn on March 04, 2007, 11:25:43 am
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[/Colin was the bank actually in NEw Jersey or was it somewhere else as at this time of year in the north east its just too cold to do that kind of work quote]

Yes Pat, it was right outside the Jew Jersey Penn Station. Like I said it was the only warm sunny day of the whole week. Next day was windy and then the snow came back with a vengeance.

Also there were two lines per man, BUT they were run through the same handle so far as I could see. I base that on the fact the the ropes were slightly apart as they went down to each man, then were close together just below the man and separated again as they continued to the ground.