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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: john tomkins on March 02, 2007, 12:44:07 pm

Title: Dodgy
Post by: john tomkins on March 02, 2007, 12:44:07 pm
How about this, I know we all have done things we shouldn't have....but....
1 side of the ladder on the frame the other an inch from the glass.
I didn't hang around long enough to see how he did the window above the porch.
Not very good quality coz it was my camera phone through the van window.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Mike_G on March 02, 2007, 01:28:57 pm
What a spanner
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Post by: ac_cleaning on March 02, 2007, 01:42:45 pm
what an idiot
al
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Post by: Clear Vision on March 02, 2007, 01:56:00 pm
Just a fool!
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Post by: Spruce on March 02, 2007, 01:57:38 pm
I wonder if he does dormers the same way?
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Post by: simbag on March 02, 2007, 02:00:35 pm
Stupid thing is, he only needs to push the ladder up another few inches and he could rest it on the brickwork! Ok he might need to bring the base of the ladder out a little way, but I know what I'd prefer...
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Sir Squeaky on March 02, 2007, 02:26:56 pm
Dear me.

Just step on to the roof and hang on to the sill.
Or is that wrong too? :-X
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Easyclean Windows on March 02, 2007, 04:28:46 pm
Quote
Just step on to the roof and hang on to the sill.
Or is that wrong too?

So one hand on the sill the other cleaning mmmm so you havent got any insurance then as you well know if your using a ladder you should alwasy have one hand on the rung and if you fall the first thuing the insurance company will say is well were not paying out beacuse he obviously wasnt using his ladders correctly.

Accidents dont happen they are caused
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: david-maunder on March 02, 2007, 04:34:04 pm
i don't know if its luck ...

but if its not ,his got a good balancing technique....

his missed his vocation ,he should be in the circus...
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: john tomkins on March 02, 2007, 04:43:18 pm
Well I wondered how exactly he was gonna clean those 3 panes, he can't reach the left side, the ladder is stopping him doing the middle, so he can only do the right hand side unless I'm missing something ???
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: david-maunder on March 02, 2007, 05:04:31 pm
probably move the ladder under the alarm box


and bobs your uncle ... ;)
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: john tomkins on March 02, 2007, 05:52:08 pm
probably move the ladder under the alarm box


and bobs your uncle ... ;)
Same distance though to the center pane if he put it on the right hand wall side of the window to start with, I just couldn't see why he put it where he did to start :-\
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 02, 2007, 06:10:43 pm
This is where ladder mitts are so useful.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 02, 2007, 06:26:41 pm
Stupid thing is, he only needs to push the ladder up another few inches and he could rest it on the brickwork! Ok he might need to bring the base of the ladder out a little way, but I know what I'd prefer...

He could extend the ladder more and would need to bring the ladder out as you say but maybe the car parked below him would stop him from doing that?
Maybe he could even rest it on the fascia but it might be hard cleaning the glass - especially nearer the bottom when he would have to reach in more.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 02, 2007, 06:31:51 pm
Use the car to stop the ladder slipping!
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 02, 2007, 06:45:14 pm
Use the car to stop the ladder slipping!

I've used my van that way occasionally in years gone by.  Wouldn't do it now though.
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Post by: misterrartois on March 02, 2007, 07:05:16 pm
madness...even more obvious,why doesnt he use a Pole?
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on March 03, 2007, 01:17:57 pm
Upon closer inspection of the picture I'm thinking that he forgot he wasn't  using a pointer ladder.  On the other hand he could just be an idiot.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on March 03, 2007, 01:23:41 pm
What a nerd!  ;D

This is why training is esential!  :o :o

Shaun R.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: john tomkins on March 03, 2007, 01:58:40 pm
What a nerd!  ;D

This is why training is esential!  :o :o

Shaun R.


Shaun,
If someone needs to be trained NOT to do what that chap is doing, then there really is something wrong.
Common sense should kick in ::) surely
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: WavieDavie on March 03, 2007, 04:37:37 pm
No part of the frame is touched by his ladders - because the ladder is only balanced against the guttering.

Now, I've done stuff like that in the past, but all our ladders have safety feet on them and the feet would also be against something like a kerb or a wheel, so they couldn't slip backwards.

YeeHaa - when's the next rodeo?
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: john tomkins on March 03, 2007, 05:42:16 pm
No part of the frame is touched by his ladders - because the ladder is only balanced against the guttering.

Sorry, but driving past real slow I can assure you that one side of the ladder was resting on the pvc frame.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on March 03, 2007, 05:46:13 pm
What a nerd!  ;D

This is why training is esential!  :o :o

Shaun R.


Shaun,
If someone needs to be trained NOT to do what that chap is doing, then there really is something wrong.
Common sense should kick in ::) surely
I know what you mean mate you're right!

How stupid can you get?

Shaun R. ;D
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Russell Macdonald on March 03, 2007, 05:48:56 pm
No part of the frame is touched by his ladders - because the ladder is only balanced against the guttering.

Sorry, but driving past real slow I can assure you that one side of the ladder was resting on the pvc frame.

Even if one side of the ladder is on the frame its no safer, an accident going to happen sooner than later. I hope when he does fall its only himself he hurts & not land on someone.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: WavieDavie on March 03, 2007, 10:27:57 pm
No part of the frame is touched by his ladders - because the ladder is only balanced against the guttering.

Sorry, but driving past real slow I can assure you that one side of the ladder was resting on the pvc frame.

He's not even a clever numpty then - cos if he'd centre'd the ladder, while bracing against the gutter, he would have got it in one. But maybe he thought THAT was dangerous  ;D
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: [GQC] Tim on March 03, 2007, 11:00:22 pm
Now I got a question, how can you safely do the window above the porch traditionally? Pole is a no go because of the angle, can't reach it properly. Stepping on the porch would be considered unsafe. So how?
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: WavieDavie on March 03, 2007, 11:22:42 pm
You could do it in two moves if you put your ladder to the weather board, but you'd need long arms. Plus someone footing.

As the weather board sticks out quite a bit, you MIGHT get away with using a stand-off to the remaining bricks just above the top of the frame. But probably two moves again. Plus someone footing.

You can use a 0o squeegee on a long pole - but you'd need to be good.

Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 04, 2007, 01:39:15 am
Now I got a question, how can you safely do the window above the porch traditionally? Pole is a no go because of the angle, can't reach it properly. Stepping on the porch would be considered unsafe. So how?

A pole would work OK.  You could do one pane either side of the ridge.  Even if the angle is a bit too tight for it, a pole with swivloc applicator and swivloc squeege or even a a wagtail would do it.
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Post by: steve k on March 04, 2007, 04:19:42 am
the window above the porch is SIMPLE to reach with a pole... ;)
stand either side and done in 1 minute tops.
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Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on March 04, 2007, 09:43:21 am
Doing it traditionally I would have used my traditional window cleaning pointer ladders, put the point on the frame and done it in 2 ladder stands.   The one above the door I would have put the point at the apex of the porch.  A lot slower than wfp though, and still a small chance of falling.

Simon

Numpty now there's a Terry Wogan insult.
Title: Re: Dodgy
Post by: davey c on March 04, 2007, 05:34:35 pm
crackers ::)