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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Davew on March 01, 2007, 09:16:49 pm

Title: Average Size Round
Post by: Davew on March 01, 2007, 09:16:49 pm
Whats your domestic round size? just wondering what the number of properties most individuals clean per cycle. I think I need around 250 as an absolute minimum just to tick over.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Clear Vision on March 01, 2007, 09:23:18 pm
I would say 200 is enough to keep you ticking over nicely!

Any more is a bonus.

Just think about it, if your average house price is £7.50 thats £1500 per month for your 200 customers. Thats not too bad.

250 @ £7.50 (average) = £1875
300@ £7.50 (average) = £2250

and so on.

As long as your prices are high you don't need too many customers.

The less customers you have but are high priced  the better. = more time off to build more customers and good money ;)
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Davew on March 01, 2007, 09:34:46 pm
Hey Clear Vision is that a franchise? we have Clear Vision down in Wilts area sometimes.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Clear Vision on March 01, 2007, 09:36:08 pm
No franchise
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: ronaldo on March 01, 2007, 10:05:25 pm
Mine is 160, and it averages out a lot higher than the figure quoted for 250.

Ive said before and i,ll say it again its all about the quality of the work you have and not the quantity  ;)
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: ok cleaning on March 01, 2007, 11:06:45 pm
we have about 350 customers
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: JM123 on March 01, 2007, 11:54:09 pm
51242554 - takes 2 of us 4 days a week.

 :P
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Ian_Giles on March 02, 2007, 05:46:18 am
Jonny,
Is that a telephone number or a mere 51,242,554 customers :o :o :o

If it's taking two of you 4 days to knock those out you need to pull your finger out! ;D

You need about a dozen a day at around an average of a tenner a pop, and you'll be doing well.
Go for a variety of work, big houses, small houses, though if you are just starting out, it's unlikely you will average a tenner per house!
Most of us underprice to begin with :-\

Ian
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: scrimit2 on March 02, 2007, 04:11:18 pm
around 285 now, it used to be 370, but that was way too much on my own,
quality is way better than quantity,
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 02, 2007, 04:20:24 pm
I have about 210 customers and I've been going for 15 years.  I do most of them on a 6 weekly cycle (I use my van if I'm not feeling so fit  :)  ) .
I used to have about 350 customers.  I earn more from the 210 than I used to from the 350.  I do get about 10 days to two weeks off during each 6 weekly turnaround.  I am currently working on filling the gaps but this is happening gradually because I am no longer prepared to take work unless I earn well from it.  I could go out there and fill the gaps very quickly with work I would regret but I would rather bide my time and fill it with better paying work.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Davew on March 02, 2007, 04:29:32 pm
Don't seem to have problems with prices just speed. All first cleans so I go round twice. Are you guys whipping round in one go on a second clean?
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Kinver_Clean on March 02, 2007, 04:34:17 pm
We started from scratch 14 months ago and now have 150 customers with ave £14.50 bill. A couple of commercials puts the icing on. The lad copes well with that and I do the carpets.
We run on a monthly cycle so he gets a week off every 3 months.
Trevor
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: S.A.J on March 02, 2007, 05:05:04 pm
We currently have about 470-500 jobs on a 4 weekly turn around.

At the height of my business we where cleaning just under 1000 properties a month on a 4 week turn around. That was when i employed lads to do most of the work. Sold about 520 trad jobs on and keep all the wfp work.

The round is much more manageable now and stress free.

If I was working on my own I would aim for 15 - 20 jobs a day at a minimum of £10 a job

That would equate to

400 jobs a month =£4000 a month at the maximum
300 jobs a month =£3000 a month at the minimum

All work will have to be on a 4 week turn around

Stuart
SAJ Window Cleaners Ltd
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 02, 2007, 06:29:51 pm
Don't seem to have problems with prices just speed. All first cleans so I go round twice. Are you guys whipping round in one go on a second clean?

Yes.  If you are thorough with the first clean, you never need to do a "twice around" again - unless it is a larger job that may be done very infrequently.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: tatman on March 02, 2007, 07:20:35 pm
sorry dave i might sound thick here but why GO ROUND TWICE whats that all about??????? ???
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: john tomkins on March 02, 2007, 07:41:58 pm
sorry dave i might sound thick here but why GO ROUND TWICE whats that all about??????? ???

1st time frames and a quick going over the glass, second time just glass when hopefully any runs from the frame have cleared, I find it almost ::) guarantees you a good 1st clean ;)
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Davew on March 02, 2007, 07:45:24 pm
Yep thats the only way I can clean filthy frames and the glass.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 02, 2007, 07:46:08 pm
sorry dave i might sound thick here but why GO ROUND TWICE whats that all about??????? ???

I can't speak for Dave but I generally go around twice on first clean for the following reason:
The first time I do frames and glass - including top frame if there are no vents.  The second pass is glass only.  After the first pass, it takes a while for the muck that has built up on top frames to dribble down.  The second pass catches any that has ended up on the glass.  The longer you can leave it between passes the more muck can come down but this isn't always so practical on smaller jobs.  If that sounds picky, i have seen some pretty bad runs come down after the first pass before so I feel it is better to go around twice just in case.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Central Window Cleaners on March 02, 2007, 10:46:20 pm
Our domestic round totals 1300 houses a month now and we cover it with 3 of us.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Alistair@AWC on March 02, 2007, 11:44:06 pm
Our domestic round totals 1300 houses a month now and we cover it with 3 of us.

Tony thats some going, are you WFP or Trad and do the 3 of you go around together.

Cheers

Alistair
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Central Window Cleaners on March 03, 2007, 09:41:14 am
Hiya,
yes the 3 of us work together mostly close pockets of work and all trad.
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: crystal.clear on March 03, 2007, 10:17:31 am
i have roughly 500 houses a month. My round works out about £800 - £900 a week
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: steve k on March 03, 2007, 10:22:11 am
Ronaldo...now Iknow you joking...£60 a day... ;D
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: LSB on March 03, 2007, 12:20:43 pm
when i re- wrote my book over christmas i had approx 1400 customers , plus some rainy day contracts !
that may change slightly when i put my prices up at easter !
Title: Re: Average Size Round
Post by: Rob_Mac on March 03, 2007, 06:17:13 pm
We have some 600 residential, loads of smaller commercial and quite a lot of cream work that is fitted into two vehicles and 3 men over a month period.

This weekend, today I have cleaned a call centre, 5 men, tomorrow night I have a job on in London for 3 nights - 3 men, and also tomorrow night a Large job on local two men - two nights.

Next weekend in London, 3 nights with 3 men cleaning a supermarket and then off up north to do a bit more and keep the domestic round rolling

Cant wait to get the pay on the invoices!!!!!

Rob ;D