Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Alex Gardiner on February 22, 2007, 06:09:22 pm
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Hi to all,
As promised I have posted the link to a video of the Super-Lite in use.
For reference purposes;
The Pole is an SL-40 (40ft) it is a year old and I have used it regularly during the last year.
The building I am using it on is 4 stories high and the top of the highest window is 43ft from the ground.
The video has been shot to demonstrate the rigidity and ease of use not to provide a guide to pole usage (hence single handed use!)
Enjoy....
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/th_Super-Lite001.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/?action=view¤t=Super-Lite001.flv)
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Superb Alex,very impressive
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That looks too good to be true.
Note to self "Save Up" ;D
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Alex
Is it possible to video the man as he lifts and drops the pole, that way you should show what sort of strain he has or doesnt have.
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looks good. No bend or strain in the pole as it is being lifted or lowered.
Time to save me pennies I think
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how much are they thanks
clean team (harrogate)
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does the water feed run inside the pole or is it wound around the outside?
Marcus
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Alex
Is it possible to video the man as he lifts and drops the pole, that way you should show what sort of strain he has or doesnt have.
William,
I was just thinking the same, I bet he looks like he's squeezing one out. ;D
Having said that looks like a nice piece of kit, although on a minor note I really hate to see hosing up the outside of the pole.
Alistair
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Hi to all,
As promised I have posted the link to a video of the Super-Lite in use.
For reference purposes;
The Pole is an SL-40 (40ft) it is a year old and I have used it regularly during the last year.
The building I am using it on is 4 stories high and the top of the highest window is 43ft from the ground.
The video has been shot to demonstrate the rigidity and ease of use not to provide a guide to pole usage (hence single handed use!)
Enjoy....
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/th_Super-Lite001.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/?action=view¤t=Super-Lite001.flv)
Nice one Alex. I am impressed. That means a lot coming from me as well.
Shiner <<<<<<< grumpy old man :)
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We shot this purely to show the lack of flex on the pole. I can always shoot another video showing the person lifting it. We did not have enough space to get back far enough to show both the pole being lifted and the person (40ft is quite a long pole!).
I assure you that you would have seen no strain from me at all, I just stood there and put the pole upright using only my arms. I will of course do another video to show this.
Of course I could just be an ex-Mr Universe. ;D
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I can assure you that Alex would have felt very little strain in his arms/back lifting the pole for a number of reasons:
The pole is so light
Very little flex = less strain (by the way I'm well impressed with the lack of bend - nice)
Alex is an ex pro arm wrestler
Alex is an ex Mr Universe
Alex feels no pain
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Top stuff Alex ;)
My dad came down for lunch today so I showed him the pole fully extended, the old man is now 79 years old and he was able to hold it horizontal...mind you, I had to greab the pole once he got it vertical though! he was off on an uncontrolled backward walk! lol (this was in the garden by the way, so no buuilding for him to rest & balance the pole against)
Ian
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I like the look of the superlite pole, 8) is it suitable for domestic work?
Are Gardiners having a stall at nec?
Brett
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very good pole want one are you going to be at the nec next month alex how high do they go i know you said 40 ft but could i add another 2or3 sections so as to go 55ft look forward from hearing from you marc
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Hello Everyone,
We will not be having a stall at the NEC, for one simple reason, we are too busy!
The whole point of 'showing' at these events (which would be great fun) is to drum up more business and improve market penetration. We are quite happy with our market share and have a very healthy order book, particularly with products like the Super-Lite.
We supply the pole in sizes up to 60ft.
"Is it suitable for domestic work?"
Many would say so, but I personally only use it where needed. My set up for domestic work (of which I still do about 4 hours a week) is a 12ft Extender with G-fit neck and Super-Lite brush (this does about 85%) an 18ft Extender with G-fit neck and SL Brush (this does about 10%) and then my Super-Lites for the odd 5%.
Having said that, one of the guys that works for us now only uses his Super-Lite for his domestic work, he just keeps a 12ft Universal pole for the odd thing.
On the strain issue, I did use a 45ft C/F Universal and a 31ft G/F Universal as my main poles for the previous 4 years so these SL's are just so easy!
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Hello Everyone,
We will not be having a stall at the NEC, for one simple reason, we are too busy!
The whole point of 'showing' at these events (which would be great fun) is to drum up more business and improve market penetration. We are quite happy with our market share and have a very healthy order book, particularly with products like the Super-Lite.
Alex
It is good to hear that you have a full order book and you don't need to promote you company profile.
But what about the many thousands of cleaners who attend these shows looking for different suppliers, the ones who have never heard about you, so they don't know about the super lite pole you have.
What happens when your order book starts to slow down and this book start to have empty pages will you then attend trade shows? or will you be to late and these cleaners have gone somewhere else.
I think that it is very important that there are more and more suppliers in this industry. If not then the few who only go to shows will have a monopoly on the industry which will not be healthy in the long run.
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Hi William,
There is only a finite amount of time with the firm and with my life.
Gardiner Pole Systems has a rapidly expanding customer base who we are happy to support with our products and advice.
No one firm can be everything or be everywhere, hence there will always be a choice for the discerning user. Since we started in the supply business the average price of fibre glass poles have come down in real terms by about 25%. We feel that this has been of benefit to all users.
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Hi Alex,
Great video, the pole looks really rigid. If you get round to doing another video could you show the whole job. I.e. putting the pole together then cleaning the windows then adding/removing sections to clean the next lot and so on.
At the moment I use an Ionic Ergo Lite and I'm thinking about buying a new pole soon. Ionic have told me that they will be releasing a new more rigid ergo lite pole soon. But, I don't know if it will be as light and rigid as this super-lite. The deciding factor for me would be the total package. which one is easier to set up, extend/shorten and put away.
I know Ionic will be demonstrating their new pole at the cleaning show but I don't want to make my decision until I've seen everything there is to see of the super lite.
Regards Jacob
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Does that mean I have to stop putting business your way Alex ;D
Think Alex has put it as how Gardners operate, they are here to help window cleaner get into WFP at a reasonable price unlike the big guns.
Well done to you guys and Kirsty of course.
Doug
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alex, can i use your video on my forum video please. to show the members
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Sure
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Hi Alex, did you read my post?
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Hi Jacob,
I did read it, I think that it is a good idea to do.
Hopefully next week I will shoot a user guide showing how to assemble it, I can then include this video with the Super-Lite user manual.
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In case there are any more questions, just to let you know I am going away for a long weekend, so I will reply to any queries when I return on Monday.
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Great, I look forward to seeing it
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I will post a video of the Super-Lite being assembled later this week.
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Long weekend? I thought you were sick? ;D
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Kirsty is sick - I took six kids to Centre Parcs!
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Alex can i get a super lite longer than 60ft if so for how much ? tried to ring no answer, you can ring me peter on 07956 803820
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Newlook,
I will give you a ring later on today.
It is possible
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We have a centre parcs just down the road from here - I thought it a possible target for window cleaning, trouble is I would need to operate from a bicycle!
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how much are the poles mate ???
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Hi Carl
Have a look on the website under waterfed poles. Click on the link below.
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As requested I have taken a video of a Super-Lite pole being assembled. The pole being assembled is a 30ft pole, each extra 5ft takes about 5-10secs longer to fit.
Please click on the picture below to view the video.
It is always this sunny in Cornwall!!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/th_SuperLiteassembly.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/?action=view¤t=SuperLiteassembly.flv)
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Great video alex.
Thanks for sharing that with us ;)
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Here is another video.
Some of you wanted to actually see someone in the act of lifting the Super-Lite. Well here it is, I apologise for the quality of the video, the sun was so bright that is has caused some glare on the screen.
And didn't we feel stupid filming this!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/th_SuperLitelifting.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/?action=view¤t=SuperLitelifting.flv)
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alex have you got the link so i can see the prices thanks mate
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HOW MUCH ARE THEY
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how much are these poles
stephen ???
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Not that hard to find ???
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html
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Thanks PJ for posting the link.
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the poles that you are showing are not on the website the ones on there are heavy ???
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Hi Carl,
Look under the section WaterFed Poles, fourth section down is the Super-Lite poles, look under the heading Super-Lite Pole assemblies gives you prices and weights.
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If you buy a 60'er do you essentially have a 5' to 60'er?
Thanks.
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That is the idea.
It actually works out at about a 7ft to 61ft pole.
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hypothetically could one go to heights of 70'?
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Hypothetically one could do many things!
Whilst we do not advocate or recommend going higher than 60ft, there are several operators who are using this pole set-up at 70ft+. We can provide extra joint strengthening that help the pole withstand the extra stresses (although some are using it without). Also a Lanyard support system can help minimise the risk of cross winds.
I personally would not want to use any pole at these sort of heights. Although the pole would still be very light (4.3kg at 76ft) there would be issues with controlling the pole in any side winds. A cradle or 'cherry picker' would be another option.
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Heres a pic of a "lanyard" attachement, its one part of a safety device I developed for one person operation, high pole work. I call it a "Sky Hook". Will have to get round to writing a report.
(http://img85.i.us/img85/2306/23612338aw3.th.jpg) (http://img85.i.us/my.php?image=23612338aw3.jpg)
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Heres a pic of a "lanyard" attachement, its one part of a safety device I developed for one person operation, high pole work. I call it a "Sky Hook". Will have to get round to writing a report.
(http://img85.i.us/img85/2306/23612338aw3.th.jpg) (http://img85.i.us/my.php?image=23612338aw3.jpg)
Hey Jeff
How do you use it?
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Hypothetically one could do many things!
Whilst we do not advocate or recommend going higher than 60ft, there are several operators who are using this pole set-up at 70ft+. We can provide extra joint strengthening that help the pole withstand the extra stresses (although some are using it without). Also a Lanyard support system can help minimise the risk of cross winds.
I personally would not want to use any pole at these sort of heights. Although the pole would still be very light (4.3kg at 76ft) there would be issues with controlling the pole in any side winds. A cradle or 'cherry picker' would be another option.
Do you have an up close photo of the joints, gooseneck, or brush?
Thanks.
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Shawn its almost the eve of our equivalent of a "picnic" or IWCA event www.cleaningshow.co.uk bit busy nowfor full explanation, applologies.