Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: David Edmondson on February 08, 2007, 08:18:19 pm
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Is the wfp method any good for residential work? I am fairly new to the w/c business and am thinking about getting a wfp for my residential work as we have had a load of windy weather up here in Yorkshire. But I have heard that you can't clean as well as the trad method. Is this true?
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Yes it is good for residential and you have heard wrong in the right hands its as good and a lot of the time better than trad.
Im not saying that because im WFP as i have nothing against traditional it done me well since 1987 but i would never go back to trad now.
Paul
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'Squeeky Clean' is traditional so you could always ask his opinion for constructive critiscism.
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Welcome fellow Yorkie ;)
Weve been using wfp for residential for 3 years and its fine.
Educate your customers first and youve cracked it.
Pete
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NO!! Dont do it. It's crap.
The fewer WFP users up ere in windy old Yorks the better!!! ;D
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clean windows for 17 yrs for one year i have been using wfp on all residential i find it does a great jop.plus we can work on a windy day we would never go up ladders again to clean windows
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If I could find a way of going back to cleaning trad, without the use of ladders I probably would. You can't beat the finishing touch of the "traditional" way. Having said that I use wfp and I'm not going back. The overall effect from a distance is better with wfp, but up close you can in fact do a finer job with the hand tools.
It's all a matter of perspective and opinion.....
Here we go again! :o
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I have been waterfed pole for 2 years now.
Had several jobs the other day which came out awful and had to do them again but before that its been great.
It does knock your confidence when you get a bad result.
Always look after my system well (backwashing ,filters,resin changes regularly.
Overall very pleased.
Robbie -Clearshine -Harrogate
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Brightnclean,where in Yorkshire are ya from. :)
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Its definately good for residential, i prefere trolley and pole im getting faster every day and more are changing over, if you go van mount make sure your tank is very secure i know one wc and his tank isnt even strapped down, death trap accident waiting to happen >:(
all the relevant advice is on this forum 8)
regards
Brett
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I switched 15 months ago now & yes it is great on domestic. The first 3 months are a night mare. Learning how to use it, etc. Now its just pull up & get going, ive sorted out my routine & now & again get a idea to make it easier.
The safety is a major plus for me, on gusty & windy days when i'm still working.
Macc
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If you've got the chance mate then go for it.
It's obviously a lot easier, but it's a lot more hassle.
No it won't do a better job, but it probably doesn't have to.
As some have said, there's no substitute for a close-up job by hand, but in most cases it's probably good enough to get away with it.
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If you've got the chance mate then go for it.
It's obviously a lot easier, but it's a lot more hassle.
No it won't do a better job, but it probably doesn't have to.
As some have said, there's no substitute for a close-up job by hand, but in most cases it's probably good enough to get away with it.
If you know how to use wfp correctly you'll do a better job than even the best trad - a lot faster, and safer.
At the end of the day, what counts foremost is that you are working profitably, and safely with satisfied customers.
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If you've got the chance mate then go for it.
It's obviously a lot easier, but it's a lot more hassle.
No it won't do a better job, but it probably doesn't have to.
As some have said, there's no substitute for a close-up job by hand, but in most cases it's probably good enough to get away with it.
(Sirens blaring and a squeal of tyres as ambulance pulls into hospital unloading bay.)
(Paramedics unloading prostrate Malc (G) on stretcher)
12 hours later as Malc(G) comes round in the psychiatry unit:-
Nurse: Mr.(G), Are you OK?
Malc (G) : I had a terrible shock and then fainted! Where am I?
Nurse: In hospital, just lie still in your comfy straight-jacket and tell me what happened.
Malc (G) : I was at the computer when I ... er ... the screen went funny and I saw a post from Squeaky, only he wasn't condemning wfp! I fell off my chair and banged my head!
Nurse: Oh what a terrible event you must have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder ...
Etc. ;D
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Squeaky Clean
If you've got the chance mate then go for it.
Are you feeling ok that not like you. ;D
Maybe its the weather
Paul
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Well it's true isn't it?
It's easier, in some cases quicker, less tiring...am I wrong?
This guy definately is though... ::)
If you know how to use wfp correctly you'll do a better job than even the best trad
Paaahhhhhaaaahaaaa!!! That's funny. ;D
ps...having fun tonight Malc? ;D
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Squeeky 8)
im very sorry to hear about your very unfortunate bad news :'(
your going soft mate ;D
hope you get better soon :P
kind regards
Brett
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I might not like it, but you can't ignore the benefits. :-\
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I'll tell it like it is Rog.
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come on rog, I use wfp week in week out, I know that if used correctly it can do a much better job, honestly you'll see this for yourself once you change over.
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I'll tell it like it is Rog.
Much like Ross and Dave do too mate.
Nice to see un-blinkered wfp users.
I know the benefits, but I know the limtations too.
..and Jm123, I've seen lots of wfp results, including from people who talk it up on here.
I've very rarely thought it's anywhere near as good as I get them. ;)
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I might not like it, but you can't ignore the benefits. :-\
Can somebody im Wales please phone squeeky an ambulance, hes been drinking heavily and smoking funny cigerattes :o
Brett
But hes coming round to the wfp way of thinking ;).
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well squeek then they must be pretty poor wfpers, I'll take some piccys tomorrow for you and show you the quality of job that should be done - every time.
if you can find fault with it then I'll still argue you're wrong!
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No disrespect meant, but to be honest most windows look bright shiney clean, however they've been done, in photos it's probably more about catching the light right than the method of cleaning.
Ask Roger, he knows all about that one for sure.
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hi there is anyone working today still lots of snow in milton keynes
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This arguement pops up every now and then ......and will always!
My opinion.............
19 years traditional. Nearly 1 yr WFP.
Trad - lovely spotless finish! - Bloody hard work, bloody lugging LADDERS!!
WFP - easier, quicker, overall better service, earn more money - but LEAVES WINDOWS WET!!
Thats the bugg bearer with WFP - leaving the windows dripping wet!!!.
A bit like a baker puts a cake unbaked in the oven and it comes out lovely - he knows it will!!
99% of the time our windows dry of fine - but, especialy at first when we are learning, that one dries out with runs or spots and the customer rings up!!
It knocks your confidence!!
WFP is SOOO simple -
Brush and wash then RINCE well with PURE water = Dries out to a perfectly clean job!
It's the logistics of doing that that can make WFP more complicated!
David
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squeek I'm off work today (been up most of the night with my head in the toilet bowl).
I'll get out tomorrow and take some pics.
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squeek I'm off work today (been up most of the night with my head in the toilet bowl).
I'll get out tomorrow and take some pics.
Sorry to hear about you worshipping at the porcelain altar.
Hope you are feeling better now.
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been wfp ing 2 months. gradually weaning it in.
Heres my opinion. leaded windows definitly a better and quicker job done.
Georgian windows with good paint work ditto.
georgian windows with bad\paint work, try them but if bad dont bother.
upvc are a complete lottery some turn out pukka, some are so bad i wouldnt pay if i was the customer. But i hear they will improve!!
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How you doing Dave?
Told ya it was a great forum.
Looks like wfp is the way to go!!
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Well I've been doing my parents upvc windows for months now and done then at least 15x but still get the horrible white lines of spots all down the glass when dry, tried numerous ways of doing them but no joy, must just be one of the bad ones, just hope none of my paying customers are getting anything like that, although I'm sure I would have heard by now.
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I have problems with my own UPVC windows with runs from the black seal as it seems its been put in upside down as the join is at the top and collect the dirt always get a few spots from that.
But i don't do my windows very often anyway.
I do them when the moaning from the wife gets too much.
Paul