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Title: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: craigp on January 31, 2007, 03:49:29 pm
lol,  aint this Porsche like 20 years old an worth about 2 grand,    ;D

http://www.alltec.co.uk/page/1gfb/Business_Opp/0-to-Porsche.html
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: prodry on January 31, 2007, 04:35:43 pm
Must think he's Gordon Gekko with the car and his Alltec Laptop
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Matt Lindus on January 31, 2007, 04:50:30 pm
Craig,

Its and old un alright, best part of 8 grand for that classic bucket!! big deal.
As for the rest of the written word about business, something springs to mind,

Matt
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Dave_Lee on January 31, 2007, 05:51:18 pm
I met Simon a few years ago, down at Alltec. Say what you like, but the reason Robert Saunders got him involved with promoting the Fast Track, is because Simon made a big success of his business in a short space of time, even by his own admission that he probably wasnt the best CC. He was however one of the best at getting a high priced ticket.
Dave.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: craigp on January 31, 2007, 06:36:43 pm
im not knocking him, i just found it funny the heading, then when i clicked on it and saw the car which i thought was only about 2k.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: the red carpet on January 31, 2007, 06:43:04 pm
he was supossed to have brought it over 4 years ago though, so i guess they was a bit more than 2k then

Saying that the first time i saw the add i did think the same thing, it would be more comforting if it was a 06 reg, Porsch jeep
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: heritagecleaning on January 31, 2007, 08:45:12 pm
Looks like a 911 SC, so pre 1987 but in good nick still 10 grand. As an office cleaner I had a 928 S4 up until last year - most people can own one, it's the running costs that made me give it up!

Owen
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: D woods on January 31, 2007, 08:48:37 pm
Who's got the most expensive car then? dont be shy
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 31, 2007, 08:55:11 pm
Hi

I think that whole point of it was to show that you can come from Zero to Hero in a short space of time with Fast Trak

In six months it would not be a new Porsche would it. Not even Gordon Gecco would do that from nothing.

It makes tha point but like everything else may not be the ideal thing to use today.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 31, 2007, 09:19:17 pm
anyone can go from 0- £50.000 in  6mths, unfortunetly  it'll  cost £40,000 in marketing to do it!!

and this what wrong with these daft advertisements, as Robert Saunders says a plane uses the most fuel during take-off so in the beginning you need to spend A LOT on marketing to get going.

so you might earn fifty grand quick, but at what cost?

Mike
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Mike Osbourne on January 31, 2007, 09:30:57 pm

If you do go out and buy a new Porsche after six months, you may have learned how to make money, but you certainly haven't worked out how to make it work for you.

He would have been better off getting an Alpine GTA turbo anyway. ;D
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: mark_roberts on January 31, 2007, 11:02:36 pm
Dont knock him regardless of the car.  He left a £35k job to start a business to make more.

How many of your made £35k last year?

Mark
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 31, 2007, 11:51:19 pm
Most of us have been looking at that web site for several years so the question is this gentleman still in business.

Some one  must know him. Will he please contact Craig. ;D ;D ;D and tell him how he did it ??? ???

Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: the red carpet on February 01, 2007, 07:58:59 am
http://www.acornfabriccare.co.uk/sb/Displaycompany.do?p=homepage&id=SB0001653401000010

well he's still got a website up so my guess is he's still in buisness
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Robert Watson on February 01, 2007, 09:05:15 am
You would think he could afford a decent website
instead of a Yell template  :-\
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: david holland on February 01, 2007, 07:26:16 pm
i have  known Simon for a few years- top guy - works when he wants to and he doesnt have to be a slave to the bank manager , so you could say he is a success at what he does ie not stressed out and rushing around like a headless chicken for not a lot of money

regards

DAVID
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: AquaMagic on February 01, 2007, 07:46:17 pm
Im sure Simon is a great Guy and im pleased he made a success but his website isnt really a great advert for fast track, doesnt fast track offer any website advice?

Dene
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: jasonl on February 01, 2007, 07:46:34 pm
To say the word "porsche" is a misnomer too , I own outright a 17grand porsche, and at the same time drive a van that cost me £321 yes £321! off e-bay, and had been in the business 12 years before I could afford it. It is just what I choose, it would be quite easy to spend 17k on a van instead but  that was not my choice. work to live!
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Mike Halliday on February 01, 2007, 07:52:30 pm
we can make fun of his website or his dream of owning a porche.

but we've got to remember we are talking about a real person who is a fellow carpet cleaner.

as long as he'd happy and providing for his family then he's a success, good luck to him.

mike
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Robert Watson on February 01, 2007, 08:07:59 pm
Here, Here,
But you must admit, after spending so many grands on marketing, there's a serious week link.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Terry_Burrows on February 02, 2007, 06:37:43 pm
its spending loads on marketing surely gets its :-\ we have spent and done quite a bit with small results,so does this so called fast track work any other way :-\ and is it worth going on :-\
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: craigp on February 02, 2007, 07:51:55 pm
Dont knock him regardless of the car.  He left a £35k job to start a business to make more.

How many of your made £35k last year?

Mark

yes thanks Mark.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Matt Lindus on February 02, 2007, 11:59:59 pm

Total waste of time and money. I would rather cut a finger off than sit through some course listening to some wallet leach lecture you on how to run a business and become a multi millionaire in 3 days.
What you get,,
Some idiot who drives an A Reg Volvo 340 lecturing you how to earn mega bucks Yada Yada Yada, 3 ham sandwiches and a cup of tea, and no doubt some shockingly naff story such as "The Door"!!. (that's if you've not fallen asleep at that point)
Honestly, you would be better of buying an air guitar than going on this waste of time and space.

Take Joe Polish, how much has he robbed from people!!! I could stand in front of you all and tell you to go out and "Make it happen guys" "Your the best" "Come on lets all clap together class,, YAAAHHHOOO!!!" "Reach for the moon guys,, yeee haaa!!"

Two words to motivational speakers ..........

Not wishing to be negative of course.

Matt   
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Len Gribble on February 03, 2007, 02:50:09 am
Good luck to him it took me 4 years to rebuild my dream car. :-[

Len
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: craigp on February 03, 2007, 08:57:13 am
Matt,

there is real value in his systems hes not a motivational speaker which is what you describe, there to many people using his material with success for it to be dismissed.

i do think as do lots of others that there may come a time it will work less well because of dilution and to many people using it un diluted also, because your not different from the compitetion if there all doing it, and thats the main idea to set your self way apart from everybody else.

6 or 7 have done FT in my area :o

Craig
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Ian Gourlay on February 03, 2007, 12:31:02 pm
The Theory is 9 out of ten carpet cleaners do not do it.

This problem with Forums like this is they helps to stimulate and Motovate People
on a daily basis.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Mike Halliday on February 03, 2007, 12:46:10 pm
actually I think its disgusting how you all equate material wealth & possessions with success.

according to the Dela Lama 'only by casting off the binding of material pleasure can we find true enlightenment'

plus don't forget

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,"

or take note of the worlds greatest philosother, Bob Marley;

Here's a little song i wrote,
you might want to sing it note for note,
don't worry, be happy

Mike :D :D
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: D woods on February 03, 2007, 01:58:05 pm
Lack of money is the root of all evil
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: jasonl on February 03, 2007, 06:58:55 pm
actually I think its disgusting how you all equate material wealth & possessions with success.

according to the Dela Lama 'only by casting off the binding of material pleasure can we find true enlightenment'

plus don't forget

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,"

or take note of the worlds greatest philosother, Bob Marley;

Here's a little song i wrote,
you might want to sing it note for note,
don't worry, be happy

Mike :D :D


Up on furthur study though , we know that the eye of a needle was a gated entrance to a  walled city , which was *difficult * though  not impossible for a camel loaded with goods to pass through.
So , it is possible , i think the story is trying to say, though difficult.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Mike Roper on February 03, 2007, 10:51:19 pm
I think you will find that Jesus was using ' hyperbole' here . In other words gross exageration to get over the point he was trying to make. It is impossible for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God if he puts material things before God. It is the LOVE of money not money that is the root of all sorts of injurious things.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: craigp on February 04, 2007, 09:53:12 am
it must have ran up into hundreds that have done FT by now, i wonder what proportion made a succuss of it, Alltec must have turnover before and after stats.

I wonder if i was interested in joining, would they tell me these stats while making an enquiry to them?

or would it go off into a sales pitch? or a push into going to a seminar?
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: PaulKing on February 04, 2007, 12:58:23 pm
"THEY DON"T PUT POCKETS IN SHROUDS"

A lack of money is a pain in the arse, but sometimes you can have to much, guess it just working out what fits for you.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Dave_Lee on February 04, 2007, 01:10:48 pm
Terry Burrows,
I believe you know Colin Bright (Ex window cleaner) of Brights Cleaning at Blackpool, look up his profile and send a personal message, ask him what he thinks about the Fast Track and would he be the owner of a hugely successful high priced business, without having done it.
Dave.
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: KarlJones on February 04, 2007, 01:21:07 pm
I will say that it must have been a tad easier for someone on 35k a year with tons of sales experience and the fact that sales background was in cars to reach this goal.

I mean, if anyone can sell you would expect it to be this guy, and if anyone can find a cheap deal on a car you would expect it to be this guy.

It would be a lot nicer if they showed "I was on nuffin, on the dole for 10 years, but I got a nice new ferarri in 6 months".  It is not saying that though.

Car sales man on 35k buys an old porsche.
Big deal!
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: Doug Holloway on February 04, 2007, 01:33:05 pm
Hi Guys,

Dave Lee's comment is valid, I met Colin at Carpex , he is much less experienced than me and lives in a poorer part of the country , yet he gets better prices than me, Why, because he asks for them !!

Colin could talk the hind legs off a donkey which i suppose helps but I believe what FT did for Colin was give him the confidence to ask for better prices.

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: 0-Porsche in six months
Post by: ianharper on February 05, 2007, 04:03:11 pm
guys

joe polish, fast track, are all "direct responce marketting" systems

the differance is like putting a advert in a directory like yellow pages to dropping a leaflet.

the first one you are waitting for the customer to come to you the second you are offering your service linked to some kind of offer.

why direct responce works is that you are in control, and its this control that some are better at than others. thats why it works for some and not for others.

in my view fast track is over priced for it delivers.

you can get better direct responce for others in differant services etc. and the good thing about this aproach is that every other carpet cleaner is not using it. so the ideas are new.

my history with joe was that i had a maid service business and when to a boot camp in the usa and used these "carpet cleaning" marketting ideas to build my maid service. so you see you can take direct responce ideas from other areas and services and use them within carpet cleaning.

one very inportant part of direct responce is following the numbers of each advert, this way you know what works and what does not. saving you wasting your money. proff of return on your investment is a must.

the judge of anything in business is in the profit you make and what your prospects and customers think about it.

Respect

Ian Harper