Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: pete albion on January 30, 2007, 08:00:39 pm
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sure its been asked before!
i'm looking for a good trolley systems i like the look of both the aquaclean and the pure freedom ones.......
which one should i go for ???, and if you were buying which one would you choose and why ?
also are there anymore systems out there worth looking at ?
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If I didnt know then that which I know now I would go for a freedom trolley
I used to think in terms of now not of the future
Chris
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I cannot speak for Aquacleans trolley but I have a Freedom trolley and all I can say about it is "it is a fantastic piece of kit" and has not let me down and does everything I has asked of it...easy to use/store/move around.
It has paid for itself many times over....
All in all a great piece of kit.... ;D
Cheers
Dave.
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Wasnt peter fogwill bringing out a new sort of trolly system??
Thats what i heard before chrsitmas but heard nothing since ???
Dave
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I have the Freedom Trolley and think it's a handy bit of kit.
It hardly comes out of the van now if at all, but know i have the option if i need to.
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I cannot speak for Aquacleans trolley but I have a Freedom trolley and all I can say about it is "it is a fantastic piece of kit" and has not let me down and does everything I has asked of it...easy to use/store/move around.
It has paid for itself many times over....
All in all a great piece of kit.... ;D
Cheers
Dave.
same here. I only notice the drawbacks when the job requires more than it can carry.
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I visited the Freedom people today after getting their details from this forum. They are only an hour from me. I took my mate who is converting to WFP. I spent over £6k on my van mounted system. The trolley really impressed us. My mate is now going to have basically what I have plus the trolley for half what I paid :( I ordered one as well. It seems really well built and is so compact when folded down. It will be really usefull for a lot of my jobs where I cant get my hoses to.
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I have the Freedom Trolley and think it's a handy bit of kit.
It hardly comes out of the van now if at all, but know i have the option if i need to.
craig
so have you just added a bigger tank in your van, but useing the rest of the freedom gear ?
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The only advice about tanks I have is get the biggest tank that your vech will accomodate...that not to say you have to fill it but is always there should you need extra capacity(vech weights and safety issues to be addressed).
Cheers
Dave.
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Yes mate.
Instead of putting the pipe in the water container it's connected to a 400l tank in the van.
This was one of the reasons i got the trolley.
I have a 100m of microbore (6mm) hose which is connected to the trolley with a hoselock connector. If i need to take the trolley out it only take about 2 minutes to do.
But like i said i haven't taken it out for ages.
Craig
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Pete.
What my mate is going to do is have a 650 litre tank installed and use the trolley to power it. He can just take it out when he needs to use it on it's own as well. Its got the same pump as I have on my van mount system. The 100PSI Shurflo so he can have a reel with 100 metres of microbore which I have as well. I wish I had known about it before I spent all those £££'s :(
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thats great feedback from you all, many thanks :)
think the freedoms the one for me.
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This is an old picture i have of the van - a real mess - but you can see the trolley well.
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Yes mate.
Instead of putting the pipe in the water container it's connected to a 400l tank in the van.
This was one of the reasons i got the trolley.
I have a 100m of microbore (6mm) hose which is connected to the trolley with a hoselock connector. If i need to take the trolley out it only take about 2 minutes to do.
But like i said i haven't taken it out for ages.
Craig
i have exaclty the same setup except that i use the trolley 99% of the time and pull the hose out rarely.
I do this 'cos i'm a bit homeless atm and i'm having to produce water elsewhere.
I use about a 1/3 less water now by filling 25 litre barrels (with submersible pump) than i did when i used the trolley as a van mount.
I also break no ornaments or plant pots wheeling a trolley around whereas i broke a several plant pots and a couple of statue/garden ornaments by dragging a hose.
A van mount is much quicker but i spend more on petrol by having to refill some days at lunch time.
The trolley is very water efficient but is a pain to refill on jobs that use more than 25 litres.
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This is an old picture i have of the van - a real mess - but you can see the trolley well.
thanks craig
the picture shows how well the trolleys made, looks pretty robust to me............................as for the van,
try replaceing the leeds scarve with a brighton & hove albion one, should tidy it up no end ;D
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Brighton who ??? ;D ;D
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brighton & hove albion,
you know the team that sold you a donkey ( dan harding ) for a million quid or something ;D
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Thanks for that Pete ::)
The only thing i might say against the trolley is the bar / axle??
Think they have a newer trolley now but on mine the axle seems a bit loose.
Was going to fit a better one but as it stays in the van i haven't bothered.
Craig
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Freedom trolley every time 8) you wont regret it
Brett
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tomorrows the day :P
gonna use all my courage and willpower and take my credit card outta its wallet :'(..............................................
and i'm gonna order one :D
boy am i shaking :o
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or you could use one of these ive got 2 had them nearly 2 years now without a single problem , they come in 50ltr and 125 ltr
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/waterfed/S3010041.jpg)
hope this helps
gary
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liking the look of the freedom system, especially as you can van mount when you are ready. Only just started on the trad route but already looking to add a trolley system for future work there are a few new 3 storey developments on the way in my area and I'm looking to get into them.
I see the Ro/DI unit is included along with some poles to get started. Nice.
How much does the Freedom system cost?
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If you must have a trolley system, then the Freedom trolley is probably the easiest one around.
However most people start out with a trolley, but 3 years down the line never use it. Save yourself the money and go for a Van system straight away. You will save time, money and your back.
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To underline that, I've just set up a 400lt trailer.But I find it's too heavy and hard to maneouvre. Van is the best route. All the suppliers seem to give good advice.
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the system is advertised at £995 free delivery and the design has changed slightly looks good
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As I have said many times before you have to use the system that fits your round. I could not work from a van - would love to but it would be a pain in the neck, so we have to work the way the round demands.
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Hi John L,
Nice area you live in , we stayed up there last October.
Why can you not do your round from a vehicle??
As well as having a very large commercial round, we also have at least 2 days a week domestic work, which is in and around the coastal villages of Cornwall. We find a 500litre tank and 2x 60metres of microbore suits our domestic work spot on. We would definitely take longer and it would be much harder work with a trolley system. We know because it is how we worked for the first 6 months. We have yet to find a house that would be easier with the trolley.
Alex
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As I have said many times before you have to use the system that fits your round. I could not work from a van - would love to but it would be a pain in the neck, so we have to work the way the round demands.
Funnily enough, I have done things a bit differently. As I prefer working from the van, I have errrrrm pruned much of the work where I couldn't park close enough. I still have work where I need a trolley though and wouldn't ditch the trolley as you never know when you might need it.
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ordered the freedom trolley yesterday, have to wait about 3 weeks for delivery...........................
so thats me, i'm almost a wfp boy now :)
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Alex, my work and round which is not a full-time occupation at present, is easily done with a trolley, and I dont find filling it a hassle although I would welcome something like a 35ltr container on it. :)
At times I do use a 60 mtr microbore hose off the trolley which gives excellent flow rates to 25ft ( havent tried anything higher as I dont have the need ) and its great for certain houses but I find pulling a trolley with me is a lot easier than hauling a hose then having to reel it in for 80% of my round. Also the obstacles I encountered with the hose are a pain in the neck- ornaments,garden pots etc - why do larger houses think they need so many urns and statues?
As it works for me I dont see the value in the extra expense of a van etc for my round as it is now. However I do see the long term value if the returns fill the right boxes. btw I work out of the back of a Pajero 4x4 - a Shogun in this country :)
keep up the good work down there :)
JohnL
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Hi John L,
I see, it offers you the option of being flexible with the types of work you do.
Shoguns seem to be quite popular down here. There are a couple kitted out with tanks etc for window cleaning. Also seen a Jeep Cherokee recently in North Cornwall. I think that we have more WFP operators per head of population down here in Cornwall than any other county in England. I know of at least 150 WFP'ers in a population of just 500,000. What this does provide is a wide variety in vehicles used. I always like it when someone uses their imagination in their choice of vehicle, makes life interesting.
Alex
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I used about 3/4 of the hose (6mm Microbore) & cleaned upto 40foot with no problem with water flow.
Infact i'm doing tham again today
Craig
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4x4s have been invaluable in bad weather conditions over the last few years but I must say with the mild winters we have experienced recently I am not so sure of the overall value - especially as it only runs to 20 mpg :( - but its my personal vehicle, its old but I love them!
Yes you are right Alex - flexibility is the key. Ease of use with little outlay is the way for me with a trolley based system, but I would love to able to have a 35ltr tank cus that level seems to be about right.
JohnL
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Think i'm sold on the Freedom after looking through the forum. Would love to go straight into a van mounted system but funds wont allow... :(
99% of my work is domestic so really need to cart a trolley about, I've read a few posts about people leaving them in their vehicles and linking the system up to a larger water container. Thats probably the route I will be following eventually till I get properly into WFP. Prices aint great up here so may take a bit longer.
So the Freedom comes with all the gear to get started including RO/DI system, poles and brush. So what else do I need to get me going? Gonna set it up in my outhouse where there is a water supply and electric socket inside. 8) How big a water container do I get and how many 25L (think thats what the Freedom takes) containers should I be looking at?
Cheers ;)
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kinga
i've ordered 8 25ltr containers and going to get a large waterbut from b & q, 230ltr i think they come in.
and will set up in my conservatory.
can't wait my freedom trolley should be with me in a week or two ;D
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changed my mind again I think Pete..... :-\ backpack favourite at the mo.....8 containers and a big butt for me too.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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kingaknaa said he couldent afford a van set up?
i bought a trolley
but have now set up a van mount for about the same money prob slightly less actually.the trolley is is my van all the time now as well as a van mounted system,its far easier than the trolley with all the barrels to lug about every day, & the hoses pull out so much quicker,
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the main reasons i've gone for the trolley system is
1) i cant afford to buy a van aswell as the system
2) i don't have a drive or garage so have to park in the street, so can't run a hose across the pavement to fill up a tank in a van
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Exactly the same situation here Pete. Can get set up for about £550 backpack system and everything required. would cost me about £1200 for trolley system. A fair difference when you're just starting off in WFP.
Wish I could afford a van and system..... :'( Not making big money up here. People will not pay the prices. Cheapest van I've seen is £795 for an R reg escort, then all the gear on top... :-\
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how long does 25 ltrs last on the trollys . thanks
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Just seen this new trolley advertised on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/pure-water-pole-window-cleaning-trolley-system_W0QQitemZ280082805118QQihZ018QQcategoryZ112579QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.alwindowsystems.co.uk/
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Looks ok that. Very sturdy. Typical I've just ordered my backpack today, then again, a trolley will come later I'm sure.