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Title: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: the red carpet on January 15, 2007, 11:52:58 pm
Listening in on the fastrack phonecall tonight for the first time, i heard Martin mention a leaflet printing company
so went online to take a look.

Anyway, as i was looking i came across one even cheaper.

So as i know Martin, Pierre and a couple of the others come on here, here it is guys http://www.e-printing.co.uk/orderflyer.asp?id=916

£52 cheaper ;)
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 16, 2007, 06:10:09 am
Red

Did you get anything good from it last night?

Cheers

Neil
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 16, 2007, 08:45:02 am
LOL Neil,

hes not going tell you that. ;D
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 16, 2007, 03:23:40 pm
Looks like Pink Flyer is now FULL COLOUR.

But if my maths is correct 1.5 per flyer is a good price
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 16, 2007, 05:50:51 pm
is'nt the pink flyer A3?

who wants to spend £1500 on leaflets in one go! you'd better be confident it a good leaflets, otherwise its a expensive test.

and the leaflets cost that much you need solo delivery to get total effectiveness

Mike
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: jasonl on January 16, 2007, 05:55:51 pm
Mike,   last week , scs, iceland, natwest and hearing aid place  i am sure they all had well over 100000 leaflets last week as well as in my door , I understand your point though .
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 16, 2007, 07:27:32 pm
do they use royal mail for distribution ?
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: maxcarpets on January 16, 2007, 07:34:30 pm
The one making the most money is the printer! ( and alltec of course ) not the cc
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 16, 2007, 07:38:32 pm
Jason when i take as money as Natwest I'll print my leaflets by the 100k ;) ;), plus I bet they have top ad agencies designing them

Mike
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Art of Clean on January 16, 2007, 07:48:25 pm
The one making the most money is the printer! ( and alltec of course ) not the cc

It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings, who knows the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails while daring greatly, knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls who know neither victory nor defeat.


For all of you who is quik to point a finger at All the "wrongs" in life! and not have the BALLS to try things before you point a finger?????
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Kev Loomes on January 16, 2007, 07:58:31 pm
Hi Dan

The business cards are brill from there. I think they are £35.00 inc vat & delivery for 1,000, full colour, matt laminate both sides!

Very impressed for the price.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: D woods on January 16, 2007, 07:59:54 pm
This thread is like watching TV with the sound switched off. I cant really understand what is happening.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: maxcarpets on January 16, 2007, 08:11:01 pm
Art--- If that was aimed at me, I can asure you I have plenty of balls, taken more risks than I care to remember and yes many of them went wrong. My reason for my comment is simple, as I have said before, I have five cc all sending out fast track letters through my door on a very regular basis. I can not see how this can work for them. They are all trying to get a slice of the same cake ( using the same knife ) at least now the leaflets will be colour!

Regards

Justin

PS Nice words though, very true.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 16, 2007, 08:16:39 pm
Art Of clean, very poetic, but just waffle

 some of us have stepped into the arena, Fallen into the Dust & flames of marketing mistakes, but like the Phoenix risen to try again.

we are here to give our opinion whether its listened to is up to the reader.

Sage Mick :D :D
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 16, 2007, 08:19:54 pm
Art,

do you use royal mail ?

im interested in the scale they need to be put out at, 5k a week ?

is the new flyer really full colour ?

am i going to get answers or have i got join FT, lol

craig



Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 16, 2007, 08:22:24 pm
Craif

Fast trackers are not like the Solutions gang.

They will answer but only if you ask the right questions ;)
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Art of Clean on January 16, 2007, 08:59:59 pm
Guys - I would like to apologize!! Please I did not mean to start a war.
Sometimes it just seems that we are staring ourselves blind at things that are less important.

My previous reply was aimed at people who think that Alltec is just milking all fastrackers for our money where is exactly the opposite.

So please I apologize.

If it comes to the Pink Flyer – It was said on the conference call last night that he have found a printing company that can print full colour A4 leaflets for the same price as he can produce our own A3 leaflets. So the fastrackers might give it a go and see how it works - Alltec is not making a penny!!! But in this way giving all fastrackers a opportunity to improve our Businesses!!

Please forgive me if I came over as being rude
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Art of Clean on January 16, 2007, 09:02:15 pm
For Royal mail deliveries...

Make sure you say to them if it is the first time you use them as you would then qualify for a discount. You can book as many or as little as you want. I have 300 per week done.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Art of Clean on January 16, 2007, 09:04:01 pm
3000 sorry and I did not mean lie about the first time you use them :o - this was aimed at all who have not used them before for real. Cost depends on how may you get done.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 16, 2007, 10:14:12 pm
thanks Art,

ive recently seen a different version of pink flyer, well its not pink, its main point is 'the six step cleaning process, or you simply wasting your money' im sure you know it, i think its better than the 4 reasons one.


Craig
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: paul wright on January 17, 2007, 02:34:11 am
hi  i used royal mail for a year doing about 5000 a week and it was rubbish    i didnt even brake even
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: David_Annable on January 17, 2007, 09:10:35 am
Hi

I've used royal mail, for the prices they charge you would expect them to be better than they are.

Dave
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: NigelD on January 17, 2007, 09:48:57 am
I find the biggest problem with leaflets is knowing whether they have been delivered.
I have used Royal Mail for 2 years with mixed responses. Is that because my leaflet was no good, Royal Mail didn't deliver. I don't know! I do know that some of my best customers have come from leaflets, and that I tend not get involved in a beauty parade when people contact from a leaflet.

I am interested in employing some local people to deliver and I believe some people who post on this site follow that route. I would like to know how you found them, how you pay them and what success you have had.

Nigel
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 17, 2007, 04:12:39 pm
Art of Clean

If you are getting Double sided A3 on coloured paper for 1.5p you are doing very well.  OK forgot you the latest success.

Well Done.

But my point is I cannot buy the paper for that.


Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 21, 2007, 04:57:50 pm
cann prints cheaper on full colour A4, by alot;

http://www.cannprint.com/html/prices.asp#a5leaflets
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: the red carpet on January 22, 2007, 12:15:16 pm
No they aint, what price list you looking at ???
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: matt jones on January 22, 2007, 01:06:20 pm
Hi guys i think i have come across the famous pink leaflet before to be honest i didn't think it was very good it had so much info on it, like the customers are going to read all that crap everybody i asked thought it was poope also. Not for me, and why have a leaflet a4 size anyway whats the point you could fit your life story on one that size ;D
matt
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 22, 2007, 03:16:48 pm
Red your right 'no they aint' lol

i was looking at lower quantities, 10k there cheaper, above that the one you posted are cheaper.

Matt, some people make a mistake, like when i started, i used to say to customers, CD would have charged you £70 for that lounge i done for £35, of course the customer would agree with you and say "yes people must be mad paying that, why dont they use you"

so i was fooling myself, thinking i was right to be cheap and would get further doing so, ill tell you somthing, it got me no where!


Craig
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: matt jones on January 22, 2007, 03:32:05 pm
Craig i dont understand your post mate its not in context with what i was on about is it?
matt
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 22, 2007, 03:47:42 pm
Matt

The pink flyer works, for one it push the splash and dash away from you.

Also the sort of clients that read that Rubbish as you put it are the same People that read the Times, Guardian and Mail. The sort of clients that have nice houses no overheads and lots of money to spend. Its also aimed at the middle age women who has time to read it.

We are not selling to us that read the Red tops. The leaflet is a good filter for this and it does work. Try it you'll be supprised.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: paul wright on January 22, 2007, 03:49:48 pm
got this info today in post  5000 leaflets 130gsm gloss full colour ONLY 59 POUNDS   DOUBLE SIDED  89 POUNDS
www.masterlinemarketing.co.uk
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 22, 2007, 03:57:08 pm
sorry Matt, what i was trying to say is, what your customers say to you is not good advice for your business,

they may tell you that the pink flyer is crap, but that does not mean it should not be used. or that it wont work,

i mean fast tracks been going how long? 5 years,

why are they still using it if it dont work?
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: matt jones on January 22, 2007, 04:07:41 pm
oh i see mate. It's strange the leaflets i have been using up till now have been very basic and i mean basic but they always produce 2-3 jobs per 1000 and i know alot of people have kept hold of them.  But lately i have just redesigned my leaflet which i think looks alot more professional and is to be printed in two colour instead of just black and white it will be intersting to see what response my new leaflet will get me. By the way Mark at D P design and print is printing my new leaflet and i must say i have been extremely impressed with there service i am yet to recieve them but he has been extremely helpful and would definately recommend him. It's cost me £68 for 10,000 2 colour leaflets all in. I have been quite fussy with the design as i wanted it to be perfect and he sent out as many proofs as needed not that he was not a very good designer it was mainly me changing my mind every 5 mins, so all in all very happy.
matt
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: craigp on January 22, 2007, 07:04:08 pm
good prices here;

http://www.printcarrier.com/index.php?lang=en&gclid=COeOxL7b9IkCFSU5XgodSjukGA
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: the red carpet on January 22, 2007, 09:03:12 pm
Still dearer on the A4 but bloody great prices on the A6
Cheers for the link Craig iv just ordered 10,000 A6, i will post back on this thread in a week when i get them and let you all know the quality.

ps, dont know about the pink flyers yet, but one thing i will say for fastrack is there laptop presentation and maintenance plans are great.

Iv just booked in a 5 bed house at just over £700 a year for a clean and protect, thats 61pence a square foot.

I would never had the bottle to have quoted that before, iv only quoted 9 customers so far and 3 have signed up for the maintenance allready.
Title: Re: Martin Riley - Other Fastrackers
Post by: matt jones on January 22, 2007, 09:34:03 pm
To be honest guys i don't know to much about fasttrack so if anyone could give some info? that would be cool.
cheers matt