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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steve Chapman on January 11, 2007, 04:29:57 pm

Title: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Steve Chapman on January 11, 2007, 04:29:57 pm
Hi all,

I have the pro mount 18 t/m and would like to switch the dumping of the hot water from the waste to the fresh tank, is this easy to do ???

If anyone has done it & can share a few tips I would be eternally grateful 8)


cheers
steve
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Phil Marlor on January 11, 2007, 04:39:11 pm

To be honest I wouldn't do it, I have gone back to dumping in the waste, in summer the water got so hot in the fresh water tank the machine would eventually cut out.

It can ruin the seals on the pump and hot water produces scale which will clog your machine up.

However I'm no expert, I may be talking b$%$%ks, but the machine's are built to dump into the waste tank.

Phil
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 11, 2007, 05:01:01 pm
does it dump before or after the chemical injection? if it dumps before then I can't see a problem, pumps can usually handle upto 60 degrees. it would take a lot of dumping to bring a full freshtank upto that temp'

just find the pipe that dumps the water and divert it into the freshtank

if it dumps after then over time you will increase the dilution rate of your cleaning detergent because you be dumping chemical into your freshtank

Mike
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Chris R on January 11, 2007, 07:54:47 pm
I have the pro mount 20.

Use brass quick connectors on the dump hose so that you can swap from fresh tank to waste tank quickly and easily.

In the summer, ( on a hot day ) its best to dump into the waste tank, otherwise machine will overheat.

But at this time of year its not a problem.

But when the water in the fresh water tank drops below about a 1/4 full i swap the dump hose back onto the waste tank. The lower the water level the quicker the water will heat up when you are dumping boiling water into it.

My sub mount tank only holds 50 gallons, but I can usually work all day without having to re-fill.

Chris
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: John Kelly on January 11, 2007, 08:52:00 pm
Theres a simple way to avoid all this and save water........use tools with a bypass on.
When you put your wand down to say move furniture or take a phone call your pump is heating up and this causes it to bypass. With a bypass on the tool you just crack it open slightly and the water keeps flowing gently through the pump preventing it bypassing. Also ensures hot water at the head. Uses a considerable less amount than allowing to bypass when it only stops when its cooled down.
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 11, 2007, 09:15:10 pm
I carry 5 handtools and 3 wands on the van, during my career as a C/C I've only ever seen one handtool with a bypass fitted, are they more available now?

Mike
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Steve Chapman on January 11, 2007, 09:35:16 pm
Thanks for all the comments

I think the idea of having quick connectors on is probably a good one, at least you have the option of swapping back over very quickly if need be.

never seen a tool with a bypass on tho, will have to look into that one.

Cheers
steve
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: mark_roberts on January 12, 2007, 07:09:25 pm
John


Im interested in this for my cfr tool but cant really make out from your pics whats happening.  Could you explain or draw a diagram or take new pics if possible.

thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Matt Read on January 12, 2007, 07:23:33 pm
So am i right in thinking the bypass on the wand or handtool is opened slightly that way you only lose a little water to  waste tank but it stops overheating ?

I had mine changed last week to dump into the clean tank !

I have to say i use far less water each day and i seem to be getting hotter water at the wand end, hopefully it wont cause any long term problems.

The bypass  seems like a good option though .
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: John Kelly on January 16, 2007, 09:48:18 am
A couple of better photos. Basically what happens is if you are not cleaning for a while (talking, shifting furniture etc) you just open the bypass (knurled numpty on handtool, butterfly numpty on wand) this allows a trickle of water to go through into the vacuum tube where it is sucked into the waste tank. This prevents the machine bypassing using a lot of water as it continues bypassing until it cools down.
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: John Kelly on January 16, 2007, 09:48:55 am
Another one.
Title: Re: Dumping into fresh water
Post by: Liahona on January 16, 2007, 11:05:20 am
And people wonder why I use a fuel burner. Best, Dave.