Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Chris R on January 07, 2007, 07:54:17 pm
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Hi,
does anyone have a gas conversion on a truck mount ?
My truck mount is about 10 months old now, and although the cost of fuel is not something that really worries me, I feel that when running a business ( of any sort) it is sensible to look at possible cost cutting measures from time to time.
At the moment I am using about £40 of fuel per week, if a gas conversion would reduce this to about £20 then it may be worth considering ?
Since I expect to be running this truck mount for the next 10 years or so , the sooner that any conversion is carried out, the greater the " life time" fuel / cash saving will be.
I don’t want to be carrying gas bottles around and would prefer to fill up from a petrol station with LPG, into a fuel tank.
Have you gone LPG and are you pleased with it?
How much did it cost you and how much are you saving?
regards
Chris
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yes I have one from edge technology
http://www.edgetechnology.co.uk/kits.htm
also sells refillable bottles that can be filed from a petrol station
it a pop to fit to a prowler
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Thanks paul.
that company is only 30mins away from me :)
I will call around and have a chat with them about it.
I am not sure, but think it may be the same company that did the gas conversion on Dave Ingrams old Boxer ?
Can I ask you ?
Do you have the refillable bottles or have you got a tank fitted on the van ?
How much (%) would you say you save on petrol costs ?
thanks
Chris
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I thought about this but a few people put me off it who had the conversion done.
Problems being the TM manufacture wouldnt endorse it, having to carry around another fuel source, less room in the van, less savings than you may think, sourcing gas on a almost daily bases.
Of course I could be pursuaded by the right person but I think a diesel TM is the way to go using red diesel.
Mark
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Hi mark
I know that Woodbridge, hydramaster and Prowler T/M are endorsed for gas Conversion.
I think that the savings are around 40% ?
On the plus side you will not kill your customers with carbon monoxide fumes ;)
And a gas T/m will be a LOT LOT LOT quieter than a diesel T/M !
Space on the van is always a problem ?
Paul mentioned gas bottles that can be refilled at the petrol station ? That sounds like a great idea :D
I am looking at savings of ( I think) about £15 per week or £720 per year ?
The first year should ? cover the costs of getting the job done?
Then the next nine years of use should bring in a saving of about £6400 ?
But,,,,,,,,, I would like to hear from others that have had the conversion done :o
To be sure that my facts are correct ?
Cheers
Chris
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Chris you are having a laugh if you think you'll get 10 years out of a TM.
How many 10 year old cars are on the road that are not knackered or if not knackered have done very little mileage?
Glynn has had a 470 max for 4 years and that's water cooled and lasts longer and then replaced it with about say 2500hrs on the clock.
After 4-5 years it will start breaking down more regularly being a hinderance more than a profit making machine, if you are doing regular work then after it has become tax deducted (25% against your tax every year for 4 years) then consider buying a new one as you would a van.
Shaun
PS have another word with Dave about LPG it's a saving but also a faff.
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I don't use the conversion much as it easier to use petrol when moving the prowler around, I run it off a bottle as fitting a tank in the van seemed a bit overkill.
Someone mentioned red diesel, there was a euorpean commision ruling about ending that in dec ( aparently only the uk and ireland have red diesel in ireland it's green!) and although lots of boat owners are appealing it looks likely to happen soon so the cost there will increase.
good point is it can be used indoors because no deadly fumes but even thought i have cleaned a large arena before never had cause to take machine inside, so if your like me and want to have a play aboutgo for it.
Chris you say your using £40 of petrol seam a little high average here is 20 litre per machine per week which does'nt make it economical to convert them all, maybe your is running rich?
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If you had a diesel truckmount you could convert it to run on waste vegetable oil (WVO).
Most chip shops will give you as much WVO as you need so effectively your fuel costs would be zero!
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Chris R,
I have the same van as you and interesting to note that you have a submounted water tank, is that correct. I did not have one put in on mine as Prochem said it would not fir in the van.
Do you have any problems re access etc, where is your waste tank.
darren
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I have the same van as you and interesting to note that you have a submounted water tank, is that correct. I did not have one put in on mine as Prochem said it would not fir in the van.
Do you have any problems re access etc, where is your waste tank.
Hi,
the waste tank is behind the T/M.
It was a tight fit !
The waste tank had to be lifted up on blocks to allow the T/m to slide closer to it.
All fits nice now, I also carry a porty and 1 turbo dryer.
Chris
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Looks good, I think I will get mine changed to a submount when I get the cash. As the fresh water tank is a pain.
I do aload of flood work and it takes up so much room when I need to load dehums etc. My understanding was that it was the head height but I don't think yours is much higher than the XL.
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Chris you say your using £40 of petrol seam a little high average here is 20 litre per machine per week which does'nt make it economical to convert them all, maybe your is running rich?
I think that £30 to £40 a week is about average for truckmounts?
The prowler is either VERY good on juice, or I am doing loads more work than you ! ;)
regards
Chris
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i don't have any petrol stations that sell lpg that are very close to me, it would usually need a special journey just to fill up. :-[
£40 a week, that's not even 1 lounge, why bother?
colin