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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gmccleaning on December 30, 2006, 02:07:11 pm

Title: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: gmccleaning on December 30, 2006, 02:07:11 pm
anybody give advice on fire damage,sitting room fire everthing in the tip wall paper has been took off the walls ,walls are ok its the ceiling covered in black smoke what can i use to clean the ceiling or what do u recomend for the ceiling

all advice very helpful

george
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: The Great One on December 30, 2006, 03:02:05 pm
Hi

i have never done this type of work and would therefore recommend without proper training that you sub it out to a trained professional and ask them to put x amount on top for yourself.

Training for this can be taken out with the BDMA or the National flood school.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: scimitar clean on December 30, 2006, 03:43:52 pm
look at www.restorationexpress.co.uk  under fire restoration or ring them on 0800 3166706 .
You will need dry sponges to clean the celling and then a primer sealer paint.
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: martin19842 on December 30, 2006, 06:10:26 pm
hi there

a strong alkaline cleaner, or ultrapac renovate, 

and rags.

you are only cleaning/ neutralising ready for redecoration.

regards

martin

Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: jasonl on December 30, 2006, 06:39:31 pm
What about odour removal? possibly needs thermal fogging, sealing prior to redecoration, many H+S implications, this is not a suck it and see type undertaking!
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: martin19842 on December 30, 2006, 08:42:00 pm
hi there

any decorator should seal all fire damaged before decorating.

the other alternative is to rip it all out and replace

regards

martin
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: scimitar clean on January 01, 2007, 08:32:54 pm
If you are removeing the celling that has artex on it you will need to test  for Asbestos.
Plus riping  it all out will push the reinstatement cost  up and lower the amount of money you get ?



   
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: martin19842 on January 01, 2007, 09:51:40 pm
hi there

yes we did two jobs in december, where asbestos was involved, yippee great stuff to deal with.

but we got the work done

regards

martin
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: gmccleaning on January 02, 2007, 12:57:12 am
thought it better to leave job alone (not enough experiance), better keeping good name,passed on info i got from yourselfs ,thanks very much

george
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: *Madmary's Cleaning Services on January 04, 2007, 02:46:03 pm
Fire damage odour will naturally fade.
Asbestos - not a clue!
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: jasonl on January 04, 2007, 04:20:57 pm
Smoke odour will not always fade, it is the soot contamination , we are trying to remove as much as the odour, also most buildings expand during the summer months , releasing long forgotten smoke odours from botched clean ups, this type of work is specialist and requires training, equipment, thought and planning to do properly, cost is not generally a consideration, scope is the first consideration, then put your costs to the scope.
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: John Kelly on January 04, 2007, 05:53:45 pm
Smoke odours don't always fade, especially protein odours, in fact they become even worse as the proteins break down. Thats why insurance companies pay us thousands of pounds to deal with them.
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: martin19842 on January 04, 2007, 06:32:32 pm
hi there

john, and jason

thank you for your info over the past couple of days, i have my first corroventa kit arriving tomorrw, for an install into a job on saturday morning.

i do love it, when plumbers dont connect those pipes properly.

regards

martin
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: *Madmary's Cleaning Services on January 04, 2007, 06:36:11 pm
That's me told then.

I had a very serious house fire some 20 years ago.  I remember people commenting just a few weeks after re-decoration, that they were surprised by the fact that there was no smell to indicate any fire.

It was a council house and I am sure the cleanup process did not compare to the efforts that are made these days.

No reflection upon the nature of your business intended.

Just a blind comment.
Title: Re: FIRE DAMAGE
Post by: John Kelly on January 04, 2007, 07:05:59 pm
Fires vary in intensity and what is burnt has a marked effect on the odour produced. As I mentioned protein fires, that is when some kind of meat has been burnt like a chicken left in an oven or worse when a body has burnt are usually the worst. However probably the worst non protein fire I have dealt with was when a Chestnut timber beam above a wood burning stove off gassed bacause of the heat. This coated everything in the large property with a varnish like subsatnce and stunk to high heaven.