Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Andy@w.c.s on December 24, 2006, 08:17:30 pm
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Hi all
if you don't have a baffled tank like me
Ive this little tip,
use some land drainage pipe
you can buy this from any good builders merchants
and only for a few quid get a fully baffled tank ,
Any@wcs ;)
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Got any pics andy ??
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Sorry no .
But an I B C tank will take 12 metres of pipe and because of the pipe is coiled round inside it stops any slop you have to try it to see the differance
andy
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Andy, the last time I priced up those big downpipes (are those the ones you mean?) they cost ££££ very expensive I thought.
when I worked out how many I would need to fully baffle the tank I was shocked at the expense :o
My apologies if I have got you wrong, and maybe the drainage pipes for underground are very cheap per metre, but the other type certainly isn't!
Though it really is a very effective way of baffling your tank if it is of the unbaffled variety.
Ian
Ahh...just read the post you made as I was doing this reply.
I think we are talking about different types of pipe.
The downpipe is rigid and expensive, you certainly can't coil it.
Can you be a little more detailed on the pipe you are talking about?? Diameter and so on??
Ian
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Hi Ian
The type of pipe is a flexible pipe that is about 6" in dia and is blue in colour
I think the cost was about 36 quid .
It has small holes punched in it all along its sides and so allows the water to flow , but brake its main force when conrering or stopping.
just ask in any builder merchants
;)
Andy
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these pipes are drainage pipes and are usually used for land drainage where gardens hold too much water and become boggy.
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Andy
Are you on about the protective sleeve they slide the water pipe into? That has holes incase the internal water pipe leaks, this allows the water to escape into the ground.
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It's called "French Drain" pipe, for land drainage.
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Hi Jeff
As Trevor said these are long pipes used to drain the ground but excellent for
baffleing ,and has made my I B C tank stable even when half full try it you will be amazed
Andy ;D
thanks PJ
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how many litres do you lose having this pipe in your tank?
i only ask as i would do this to mine as long as it didn't lose much volume of water in the tank
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HI
can't say for sure but its can't be any more than 10 or 15 ltrs , this pipe is only 2or 3 mil thick. ;)
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wow!
you only think that much? i thought it would be a hell of a lot more, i may give it a go myself in the new year
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you got to it stops all that rocking when you start to move forward ,and when its half full you don't even notice that you have a tank on.
Ive got mine on a transporter van and before i baffled it i was really a nightmare to handle
Andy
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mine rocks but i'm used to it now, used to feel sea sick at first ;D
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what van have you got ?
because i did find it a bit hard getting the pipe into the tank as there was not very much head room .
but then i was being lazy by not taking it off
Andy
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transit swb semi hi-top, they'll be enough head room alright
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Then its got to be done !
you won't regret it
Andy
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Another tip is :-
cut the pipes to different lengths, and arrange in a pattern in the tank.
You basically have to form a barrier within the tank to stop all the water moving from one side to the other.
So if you can create a 2 lines of the tallest pipes across ways, and 2 lines of the tallest pipes the other way and place the smaller pipes inbetween, to hold the taller pipes in place.
You will not need as much pipe in total by doing this.
Blessings,
Graeme
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This may sound a bit stupid, but do you cut the pipe into lengths? How do you secure the pipes in there so they don't move around?
Do you just cut them a few cm/inches/mm longer and wedge them in?
I was thinking of buying a 650L upright tank. But if this pipe idea works and is safe I might just give it a go! It would be a lot cheaper than purchasing a 650L tank!!
Matthew
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If you use the rigid type of pipe you simply stack them in tight together, downpiping is expensive though, but it does the job, and you lose very little space by doing so.
I do like the idea of pipe you can feed in and let it coil around all over the place.
Makes baffling very easy, with the pipe coiled and looped inside your tank in all different directions, any surge will be broken up and negated.
When the builders merchants are open I am going to pop in for a look at this stuff myself.
I've a 650 litre baffled tank. but there is only one baffle in them, so a cheap and effective way of putting in more baffling is something I'll jump at!
Ian
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To cut down the free surface movement
1) If using soil pipe (or drain pipe ) it only really needs to be about 3/4 of the tank high.
( when the tank is full the water dosen,t swill around )
If you get to look inside a ionic system you will see.
2) The drainage pipe is also used for draining land so a farm supplier might have it . I have put this in fields and I think they punch the holes into it so it will need a good rinse to remove the waste plastic.
Ray