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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 12:56:50 pm

Title: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 12:56:50 pm
Customer was over the moon that I am now wfp as her posh friends have wf wc.
I did 4 high windows today I could never get to by ladder, so already my new wfp is making me extra money.

Then I realised I had one window to do were ladders were the only option. It was like having my new toys taken away.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: supernova77 on December 24, 2006, 01:02:24 pm
Hi,

Just have a quick question...

Why do you use a backpack but don't have it on your back? Wouldn't a trolley be better for you?

Andy
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 01:09:31 pm
Hi Andy

I have all the gear for a van/Trailer mount, but it won't be set up until after christmas, and I don't feel the urge to walk around with the backpack on, it does have a grab handle, so I find it much easier just to pick it up and walk with it,  As you can see by the picture, if I fell over with that on my back I would be like a dying turtle stuck on its back ;D ;D
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: chrismroberts on December 24, 2006, 01:18:54 pm
Hi Jeff,

How much water does your backpack hold? Do you find one fill will do a whole house?
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 01:21:24 pm
I'm still on first cleans and in the case of the  house in the picture the answer is no, but by the time I'm on the 2/3rd clean, then it will do the house in the picture with out filling up twice.

sorry forgot to mention it is 18Ltrs
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: chrismroberts on December 24, 2006, 01:23:03 pm
Oh right, do you keep a supply of spare water with you? Or do you have to return home?
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 01:30:20 pm
I knew I was doing that one house and a large bungalow yesturday, so took 25ltr containers with me and a full backpack, and when I got home I had enough left to do my own windows. (christmas present to my boss  ;D)

Some guys carry six 25ltr containers with them in there cars and this can last them all day, depending on there work.
I shall use my trailer with a 250ltr tank, until funds allow a van.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 24, 2006, 03:05:38 pm
As you use a backpack why not a bit of both, a tank and some room for a couple of 25 litre containers or a tank with a drain off to fill them.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: KarlJones on December 24, 2006, 03:38:13 pm
Where do you get them backpacks from?
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 24, 2006, 04:32:16 pm
Import your own, Cleantech and  Omnipole, are two of others.
http://www.omnipole.com/omnipole_backpack.htm
http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=backpack&osCsid=2b64b7eb7e6ae567b0a2778cc8dc100b&x=4&y=8
oh and williamsons pumps.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 05:12:13 pm
As you use a backpack why not a bit of both, a tank and some room for a couple of 25 litre containers or a tank with a drain off to fill them.
Once I'm set up, the tank will be my main work horse, and the backpack will be for the akward ones or the ones I just want to do Quickly. I don't even know how far 250 ltrs will take me yet, all that to come next year.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: JohnL on December 24, 2006, 06:00:08 pm
Well done jeff!

I use a backpack but pull it around on a trolley - brilliant! The downside is I have to take up to 8 25ltr containers out as some of my round is 25 - 30 miles away but it does work and works well.

There is a post somewhere here on my setup complete with a picture.

Happy Christmas.

JohnL
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 06:23:06 pm
Thanks John
I'm using the backpack for two reasons, the first is my home base system is not set up properly yet, the shed is only half cleaned out so once thats done the system will be set up at home and I will use the trailer with a 250 ltr tank.

The second reason was I just could not wait to try out my new toys I had for christmas ;D and the backpack offered me the chance to try my hand at wfp work.

what was your post called so I can look for it. or do you have the link?
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 24, 2006, 09:22:22 pm
Someone asked me if I did the roof window, you can just see to the right of the picture, to be very honest I never even seen it ::) until it was pointed out to me.
Does anyone on here recon I can reach it with a 24' pole?
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 24, 2006, 10:33:41 pm
Judging only by the pic, yes you could reach it with the pole you are using as the lower roof is set further back from the front of the building you are using it on.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 25, 2006, 02:47:03 pm
Jeff1 - just a tip - I often fill my backpack to the absolute brim and if you grab the small bit of webbing between the two padded main back straps it will give up the ghost in time.

So grab the tops of both the main back straps together.

I never carry mine on my back unless it is approaching empty and I'm heading back to the van.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: JohnL on December 25, 2006, 05:48:46 pm
jeff

this is the beast - from a previous post. gets me every-where.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25756.20#msg194521

I only have one round some way away, the rest being within 10 minutes of base so I can refill barrels when needed but I usually take 6 barrels round with me, which usually does the job.

The pole is an oldish 18ft Brodex with a gaz brush.

best wishes mate

JohnL
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 25, 2006, 11:23:19 pm
Jeff1 - just a tip - I often fill my backpack to the absolute brim and if you grab the small bit of webbing between the two padded main back straps it will give up the ghost in time.

So grab the tops of both the main back straps together.

I never carry mine on my back unless it is approaching empty and I'm heading back to the van.
Cheers Malc, I'll take that tip on board and use both handles from now on.
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 25, 2006, 11:25:35 pm
jeff

this is the beast - from a previous post. gets me every-where.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25756.20#msg194521

I only have one round some way away, the rest being within 10 minutes of base so I can refill barrels when needed but I usually take 6 barrels round with me, which usually does the job.

The pole is an oldish 18ft Brodex with a gaz brush.

best wishes mate

JohnL
Thanks John, do you still use the same set up as you made and posted about?
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: JohnL on December 26, 2006, 12:57:50 am
jeff

Yep, I do and I've been doing both up and down windows since I started with it some months ago.

Some people here reckon putting a back pack on a trolley is not on but I dont see why not. Its much better than carrying 25 ltrs around all day.

I also use a 60 mtr micro-bore hose off it for the places which are difficult to get to and I dont have problems with pressure reaching up to the second floor.

I think it is a great piece of kit for its flexibility and its so economic.

johnL
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: macmac on December 26, 2006, 10:37:25 am
jeff & all guys with limited water

why not buy a 10ltr di canister and carry it in car/trailer as this would allow you to make pure water on demand from customers outside taps, just top your tanks/barrels/backpacks up as you go? ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: JohnL on December 26, 2006, 11:48:58 am
I've picked up 3 good customers because of other WFP outfits '' taking '' water from customer taps and one filled up his van without asking - they were on a meter and fired him on the spot!

Stupid idea mate  :)

JohnL
Title: Re: one window I could never get to off my ladder
Post by: jeff1 on December 26, 2006, 02:18:00 pm
jeff & all guys with limited water

why not buy a 10ltr di canister and carry it in car/trailer as this would allow you to make pure water on demand from customers outside taps, just top your tanks/barrels/backpacks up as you go? ;) ;) ;)
Hi Mac
I won't need to in the new year, I'll have my 250ltr tank with me, I was only using the backpack method to give me a go with my new toys.

I was not use to the amount of water I needed for say one house,so I over estamated, if I had six 25ltr drums, I probably would have took them for one house, I'm a clear case of inexperience.